06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
Politics is too much for me to follow closely. I dont even know who I like, I wish there were more candidates to choose from.
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
Nuclear power is the way to go, clean and easy and great source of energy. besides the spent fuel rods or whatever their called that they bury underground. Ive also heard they give off hydrogen? or something which is beneficial for our atmosphere? Not sure exactly if thats true. As far as the voting decision goes, still undecided.
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06-26-2008
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Tom you need to read up on modern nuclear power, it's waaaay safer than it used to be, there have been huge advances. And dirty? Not compared to all the coal and oil we burn, and not into the atmosphere.
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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Originally Posted by slowboy
Tom you need to read up on modern nuclear power, it's waaaay safer than it used to be, there have been huge advances. And dirty? Not compared to all the coal and oil we burn, and not into the atmosphere.
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As clean as Nuclear power may seem, there is the worst kind of waste. Radioactive waste that is given off by cooling the rods. This has to go somewhere. Which is the main problem with nuclear power plants. Not to mencion another chernobyl incedent, but what about terrorist attack on a nuclear power plant, which are simply not guarded enough.
Wind and solor are much better, safer and cleaner sources of energy and can power the US with the right research and advances.
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07-03-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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Tom you need to read up on modern nuclear power, it's waaaay safer than it used to be, there have been huge advances. And dirty? Not compared to all the coal and oil we burn, and not into the atmosphere.
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Nuclear power has come along way, the only problem is that new plants cost so much money no one wants to build them. And the fact of the matter is to build one they tax the people, then the people are charged for using their own power plant.
I say we build power plants everywhere for free with money bush grew on a tree somewhere, I mean why can't we just print a bunch of money we don't have right?
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07-03-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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And the fact of the matter is to build one they tax the people, then the people are charged for using their own power plant.
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No, that's called your monthly electricity bill.
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I say we build power plants everywhere for free with money bush grew on a tree somewhere, I mean why can't we just print a bunch of money we don't have right?
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Learn how the federal reserve works, please.
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07-03-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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No, that's called your monthly electricity bill.
Learn how the federal reserve works, please.
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I'm just saying it's kind of hard to pay for things in our country when bush wants to make his stupid tax cuts for the rich permenent. I'm not exactly sure how you pay for a war and cut taxes at the same time, oh thats right, you increase your deficit by spending money we don't have. If thats not printing money we don't have I don't know what is.
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
I'm not endorsing nuclear power in any way, but I feel I should point out that any group or state that cannot produce it's own nuclear waste is not likely to be able to actually process the stuff to make a legitimate nuclear bomb. Dirty bombs are also not a big threat. They don't have much more of an impact than a traditional explosive. It's really just a method of psychological warfare.
I do have concerns about waste disposal/storage. When we have the option of safer and more renewable stuff it's not the best choice, but at least the "terrorist" scenario is not a huge threat with it.
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
I'm voting McCain.
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06-26-2008
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R U DTF bro?
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I'm curious as to who the first to pay-ban Tom will be 
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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I'm curious as to who the first to pay-ban Tom will be 
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What i dont understand is how people that are planning on voting McCain dont see the simularities between Bush and Him. And if you actually think bush is a good president, next time im in town your getting a swift slap upside the head.
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: The Real McCain
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What i dont understand is how people that are planning on voting McCain dont see the simularities between Bush and Him. And if you actually think bush is a good president, next time im in town your getting a swift slap upside the head.
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He may not be the greatest president ever, but at least he isn't John Kerry!
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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He may not be the greatest president ever, but at least he isn't John Kerry!
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and speaking of john kerry, The original videos actually remind me a lot of what the republicans did when he was labled as a flip flopper. Maybe the dems should start passing out flip flops at the McCain speeches. LOL
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I love how you say it was human error and that it will never happen again. 20 years ago was NOT a long time ago by any means. Human errors happen every day, Computer errors happen every day. Saying something will never happen when it comes to something that could kill millions is an aweful assumption. What happens when your wrong? Im sure glad your not running for president.
And yes i do know what happened in Chernobyl. And the fact that the area surrounding Chernobyl is still uninhabitable should scare the living shit out of you when it comes to having 20+ Possible Chernobyl sites on US soil.
The controversy surrounding Yucca Mountain is that if a terrorist were to bomb Yucca mountain with all of that Nuclear waste it would float up into the jet stream and be spread beyond control over the US.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in579696.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain
You tell me matt, is the sky falling?
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06-26-2008
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: The Real McCain
Risks must be taken in order for our society to SURVIVE and continue growing as we know it. Airplanes, cars, trains, and boats crash everyday killing hundreds; does that mean we should all lock ourselves in the basement and refuse progression?
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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Risks must be taken in order for our society to SURVIVE and continue growing as we know it. Airplanes, cars, trains, and boats crash everyday killing hundreds; does that mean we should all lock ourselves in the basement and refuse progression?
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What im saying is there are alternate forms of energy that must be explored that can easily power our society with no harmful effects to our envoirnment or people.
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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What im saying is there are alternate forms of energy that must be explored that can easily power our society with no harmful effects to our envoirnment or people.
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Do you have any idea how many huge solar/wind fields it would take to create the same amount of power as one nuclear plant?
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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Do you have any idea how many huge solar/wind fields it would take to create the same amount of power as one nuclear plant?
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Currently yes you are correct it would take a lot. but with the advancement of technology, more Green solutions such as wind and solor are going to become a great contender to Nuclear energy.
Please read this and it will clue you in.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2006/682/7930
http://www.naturestudy.org/pdf/Solar...rWindPower.pdf
"The estimated recoverable energy from solar energy is about 1,000 times the present human global energy consumption of 10TW per year. Ten weeks of solar energy is roughly equivalent to the energy stored in all known reserves of coal, oil and natural gas on earth. Solor energy is absorbed at Earths surface at an average rate of 120,000 TW, which is 10,000 times the global demand for energy"
This was quoted from the PDF link. It was produced in 2001. Imagine how much more efficient energy production is now. Without the need to decommission nuclear plants and create the radioactive waste. As well as its much more cost efficient.
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06-26-2008
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Re: The Real McCain
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Re: The Real McCain
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Why are we talking about Bush?
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