State Trooper Troubles Anyone??

[ylimert01]

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

Yeah um....I'm sorry OP, but CornFed has a very good point. I have a "Mitsubishi" decale above my rear view mirror, but it isn't solid. I also did not place it there (original owner). .

you do realize cops dont care who put it on if its illegal its illegal same goes for window tint. The "original owner" excuse only works the first couple weeks of owning the car.

[DSMINMN]

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

What I do not understand is where you are inferring that I received a ticket? I have been pulled over multiple times, but not once have I received a ticket. I believe that is because the cops knew as well as I did they were just harassing the red "sports car" they seem driving around town.
I never expected anyone to care so, oh well. That link is to a thread of a shell.” One man's junk may be another man's treasure”. Consider that saying before putting someone else’s car down.
As a matter of a fact, I purchased that car for myself. But if you really want to play that card, come back in 2 years when both are legally be mine.

Originally Posted by ylimert01

you do realize cops dont care who put it on if its illegal its illegal same goes for window tint. The "original owner" excuse only works the first couple weeks of owning the car.

That may be true, but we have to come back to the fact that my car is red, it has chrome wheels, it also has a spoiler. On top of that is has what looks like a can, but is rather a full exhaust, it has a decal or two one it, and insurance companies consider it a sports car.

The tint was on the car for a certain amout of time this summer. Then I had to remove it because of the warnings I recieved. But when driving around town now, I will see trucks with very dark tint. Have they been pulled over? No.

The real kicker is, I see cops drive right past those trucks. And they do not seem to mind them at all. But being my car was red, they were on me for that.

You guys should REALLY understand my point here. If said things are illegal for one kind of automotive group (cars), then they should be for trucks too. > I do understand they are "illegal" for them as well, but any given' day you can find someone with a truck driving around with pure black window tint and a cop will not think twice. It should be equal for each group. <

[scheides]

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

You guys should REALLY understand my point here. If said things are illegal for one kind of automotive group (cars), then they should be for trucks too. > I do understand they are "illegal" for them as well, but any given' day you can find someone with a truck driving around with pure black window tint and a cop will not think twice. It should be equal for each group. <

Everyone gets it already man, it is a fact of life. Discrimination is a reality of life, if you think you got it bad think about what people with darker skin color have had to endure through the ages. You act like you're so oppressed when in reality you are really lucky...you have multiple cars, a place to work on them, and some tint issues. Don't sell your car, just buck up

[TwoTalons]

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

TThe real kicker is, I see cops drive right past those trucks. And they do not seem to mind them at all. But being my car was red, they were on me for that.

You guys should REALLY understand my point here. If said things are illegal for one kind of automotive group (cars), then they should be for trucks too. > I do understand they are "illegal" for them as well, but any given' day you can find someone with a truck driving around with pure black window tint and a cop will not think twice. It should be equal for each group. <

Only if you're talking about the driver and passenger windows. The rest of the glass on a truck/suv or van is exempt from the law that applies to cars. Which may be why you never see one pulled over for a window tint violation. Not sure how you would know what they were being pulled over for anyway. The other thing is the subject of this thread was State Troopers. I have NEVER had a Sheriff's Deputy or City Cop ding me for my tint. Troopers must have a mandate from high up that the tint law will be enforced with prejudice.

[polishmafia]

Originally Posted by TwoTalons

Only if you're talking about the driver and passenger windows. The rest of the glass on a truck/suv or van is exempt from the law that applies to cars.

Lets play "Fix That Incorrect Post"!

No truck/van/SUV is exempt from the window tint law. The way the law is written is that if - any vehicle from the factory with windows tinted is exempt from local state laws. Most trucks/SUVs come with tinted windows except for the front two, and so they are exempt.

Want to change the law? Become the owner of a car maker and tint all the windows. That is the way to get around the law.

[TwoTalons]

Originally Posted by polishmafia

Lets play "Fix That Incorrect Post"!

No truck/van/SUV is exempt from the window tint law. The way the law is written is that if - any vehicle from the factory with windows tinted is exempt from local state laws. Most trucks/SUVs come with tinted windows except for the front two, and so they are exempt.

Want to change the law? Become the owner of a car maker and tint all the windows. That is the way to get around the law.

Sure let's play! My turn:

Subd. 4. Glazing material; prohibitions and exceptions.
(a) No person shall drive or operate any motor vehicle
required to be registered in the state of Minnesota upon any
street or highway under the following conditions:

(1) when the windshield is composed of, covered by, or
treated with any material which has the effect of making the
windshield more reflective or in any other way reducing light transmittance through the windshield;

(2) when any window on the vehicle is composed of, covered by, or treated with any material that has a highly reflective or mirrored appearance;

(3) when any side window or rear window is composed of or treated with any material so as to obstruct or substantially reduce the driver's clear view through the window or has a light transmittance of less than 50 percent plus or minus three percent in the visible light range or a luminous reflectance of more than 20 percent plus or minus three percent; or

(4) when any material has been applied after August 1,
1985, to any motor vehicle window without an accompanying permanent marking which indicates the percent of transmittance and the percent of reflectance afforded by the material. The marking must be in a manner so as not to obscure vision and be readable when installed on the vehicle.

(b) This subdivision does not apply to glazing materials
which:

(1) have not been modified since the original installation,
nor to original replacement windows and windshields, that were originally installed or replaced in conformance with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 205;

(2) are required to satisfy prescription or medical needs
of the driver of the vehicle or a passenger if the driver or
passenger is in possession of the prescription or a physician's statement of medical need; or <-------------

(3) are applied to:

(i) the rear windows of a pickup truck as defined in
section 168.011, subdivision 29;

(ii) the rear windows or the side windows on either side
behind the driver's seat of a van as defined in section 168.011, subdivision 28;

(iii) the side and rear windows of a vehicle used to
transport human remains by a funeral establishment holding a license under section 149A.50; or

(iv) the side and rear windows of a limousine as defined in section 168.011, subdivision 35.

Notice the "or" highlighted in red with the arrow pointing at it?? Such a small word yet so important. Trucks and vans are EXEMPT! PERIOD! Has nothing to do with whether they came from the factory with tinted windows. Cars yes. Trucks and vans NO.

[polishmafia]

Originally Posted by TwoTalons

Notice the "or" highlighted in red with the arrow pointing at it?? Such a small word yet so important.

Well I stand corrected. Thank you for the information. I read the law as;

(1) have not been modified since the original installation, nor to original replacement windows and windshields, that were originally installed or replaced in conformance with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 205;
...
or <--- that is what you posted.
...
(3) are applied to:
(i) the rear windows of a pickup truck as defined in section 168.002, subdivision 26;
(ii) the rear windows or the side windows on either side behind the driver's seat of a van as defined in section 168.002, subdivision 40;
(iii) the side and rear windows of a vehicle used to transport human remains by a funeral establishment holding a license under section 149A.50;
(iv) the side and rear windows of a limousine as defined in section 168.002, subdivision 15; or
(v) the rear and side windows of a police vehicle.

So a truck can only have the rear window, and a van can have rear and sides, as well as a herse or police vehicles.

Trucks then with the side windows tinted from the factory are legal, but not if they are tinted after leaving the factory.

Good info. I love confusing laws!

[TwoTalons]

Well I would take it to mean rear door windows on a truck as well since it says "rear windows" and not "rear window". Definitely a gray area. Where is a SUV classified? As a truck or van? Confusing indeed.