Syncronized Presidential Debating

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 311evo

how is he going to make a surplus my spending a shit ton more money then bush even is, and raising taxes on everyone? if people dont have money, they wont be able to buy anything. no one buys anything, bye bye jobs, no jobs? bye bye economy. and having the worst ran healthcare program ever.

So when all our taxes go up along with government spending (obama's basically a socialist), we go further into debt and depression, will you admit that your an idiot for believing his lies?

311 please stop talking, you are the reason that obama has to keep repeating himself. HE WILL NOT RAISE TAXES to people making under $250k a year.
By cutting taxes to 95% of the people the 95% of people have more money to pay off loans, to spend buy items which stimulates the economy. and leaves most people better off. Where do you get off saying that he will raise taxes? Where did you hear this? McCain, yeah McCain sure knows a lot about the economy

The healthcare plan is about as foreward thinking as it comes, if you would stop thinking about your fucking self for a second and realise that you can benefit EVERYONE by having a healthcare system that will make sure that EVERYONE has healthcare. If you have a job that provides healthcare then you can keep this healthcare and nothing changes, however if you are unemployed, or between jobs, the government will offer free healthcare so that if you or your family is sick then you can go to a hospital and receive help. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT BAD YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
Gee, lets see McCains side, "Im going to give everyone $5000 so they can go buy their own healthcare." Decent healthcare costs over $12000 a year, so are you going to pull the other $7000, out of your pocket. I know i would rather be under obamas "Socialist" Plan.
Im tired of people making shit up that do not know what the fuck they are talking about, and that is all you have been doing in these threads 311. Just shut the fuck up and get yourself educated.

[Matt D.]

Why is it any time anyone questions Obama's plans and policies the Obama supporters get absolutely and completely bent out of shape over it? No where do you see supporters for McCain or anyone else dropping F-bombs and getting upset as if you just raped their mom/daughter/wife/sister/girlfriend. What's the deal, Tom? Are you seriously THAT passionate about Obama, or are you so close minded that you don't care what anyone else has to say because you're entranced by the pied piper's song? You are just like every other Obama supporter, his word is gospel, McCain is the devil and everyone else is a nutjob. It's time for you to look in the mirror. You are absolutely hateful when it comes to this whole thing, and if there's anything that makes people dislike Obama more than anything else it's supporters exactly like you.

[311evo]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

Why is it any time anyone questions Obama's plans and policies the Obama supporters get absolutely and completely bent out of shape over it? No where do you see supporters for McCain or anyone else dropping F-bombs and getting upset as if you just raped their mom/daughter/wife/sister/girlfriend. What's the deal, Tom? Are you seriously THAT passionate about Obama, or are you so close minded that you don't care what anyone else has to say because you're entranced by the pied piper's song? You are just like every other Obama supporter, his word is gospel, McCain is the devil and everyone else is a nutjob. It's time for you to look in the mirror. You are absolutely hateful when it comes to this whole thing, and if there's anything that makes people dislike Obama more than anything else it's supporters exactly like you.

+1

im out of this thread. have fun humping Barak's leg, even with his rediculous plans.

get educated? read my other post.

if anyone needs education, its this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU2Yv-rnJEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BHyqtaECLI

KTHXBYE

[niterydr]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

311 please stop talking, you are the reason that obama has to keep repeating himself. HE WILL NOT RAISE TAXES to people making under $250k a year.
By cutting taxes to 95% of the people the 95% of people have more money to pay off loans, to spend buy items which stimulates the economy. and leaves most people better off. Where do you get off saying that he will raise taxes? Where did you hear this? McCain, yeah McCain sure knows a lot about the economy

The healthcare plan is about as foreward thinking as it comes, if you would stop thinking about your fucking self for a second and realise that you can benefit EVERYONE by having a healthcare system that will make sure that EVERYONE has healthcare. If you have a job that provides healthcare then you can keep this healthcare and nothing changes, however if you are unemployed, or between jobs, the government will offer free healthcare so that if you or your family is sick then you can go to a hospital and receive help. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT BAD YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
Gee, lets see McCains side, "Im going to give everyone $5000 so they can go buy their own healthcare." Decent healthcare costs over $12000 a year, so are you going to pull the other $7000, out of your pocket. I know i would rather be under obamas "Socialist" Plan.
Im tired of people making shit up that do not know what the fuck they are talking about, and that is all you have been doing in these threads 311. Just shut the fuck up and get yourself educated.

Everyone does not have a right to healthcare, it is not in the constitution and something that if everyone has it, no-one will have it. I am personally not looking foreward to more government control on another private sector that gets screwed up everytime government gets involved. There are very good reasons many hospitals and doctors don't take medicare, because they don't pay for it. The insurance policies need to be addressed, not healthcare coverage.

So Tom, riddle me this. What do businesses do that make over 250k/year to cover the tax raise? Oh, I know..how about cut expenses (aka slacker employes, just stacking more work on others), or pass the expense onto consumers, which would raise the cost of living. Since a very healthy percentage of companies in the U.S. gross over 250k/year, anyone that owns a small business that isn't a corperation should be taxed. Actually corperations are technically their own indenity, so they should be taxed differently as more.

Simply put, the only way to create a surplus is to promote consumer spending, which increases economic activity as well as cut back on government spending. Obama's plan is the polar opposite of it. Fortunally the president really can't do much compared to what he thinks he can, but he can be a huge stick in the mud for any bill that congress is working on that he doesn't agree with.

Also, in 2005 the percentage of earners over 250k was 1.5% of the population.