I just want to take a quick poll...

[Kracka]

I agree with you regarding this thread Mo...I should have just stayed out of it b/c they do never go anywhere [good] or accomplish anything other than upsetting people! Politics, religion, and race are already very touchy subjects on their own and when combined like this it just becomes a mess b/c everyone has their own strong opinions and its so easy to take what someone says incorrectly (especially on the internet) which leads to even worse things. With all this said, I'm going to bow out of this thread

[A//// Guy]

I just respond to get Tom all riled up.

I stopped trying long ago, because there's really no point in changing people's minds. I'm not even sure I'm going to vote this year, because really, I don't like either candidate, even though I lean towards one.

The only way to change the economy truly, starts by getting all the corrupt people in charge of the banking system, all corporations, and also the Govt. That will never happen though.

[tpunx99GSX]

Anyone voting early? or is that not an option for MN?

[Matt D.]

Obama agreeing with Bush? NO WAY!

Obama says a McCain administration would be a Bush third term, yet Obama is in agreement with Bush on many areas. Here are 20 of them.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...ama/index.html

[Matt D.]

Obama explains his tax cut plan to a small business owner. I don't get it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9jv9jfoA

[Matt D.]

Obama says he will bankrupt the coal industry.

http://www.wsaz.com/political/headlines/33726759.html
http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215679-...s-unbelievable

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

Obama says he will bankrupt the coal industry.

http://www.wsaz.com/political/headlines/33726759.html
http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215679-...s-unbelievable

Barack obama has stated many times that he is FOR CLEAN COAL technology. The statement was taken out of context.
Matt please admit you are a McCain supporter and give up masking yourself behind an independent tag. I have not seen one comment that really puts you in the Independent group or Undecided. You get your news from McCains Political (Lobbyist) advisers.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Barack obama has stated many times that he is FOR CLEAN COAL technology. The statement was taken out of context.
Matt please admit you are a McCain supporter and give up masking yourself behind an independent tag. I have not seen one comment that really puts you in the Independent group or Undecided. You get your news from McCains Political (Lobbyist) advisers.

I'm not even voting for McCain, so saying I support him would not be true. I don't want McCain to be president either, but I don't want Obama in office even more so. No matter where I get news from you Obama supporters will always say it's from some anti-Obama source. Is there some secret Obama approved news agency that I should be getting news from? Oh wait, they'd never tell the truth and say something bad about him... You better hope that I won't be saying "I told you so" if he's elected and drives this country further into the ground than it already is.

This country needs another JFK, a champion of the people. Obama is not a leader, he is a celebrity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqksDCWZPHE

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

I'm not even voting for McCain, so saying I support him would not be true. I don't want McCain to be president either, but I don't want Obama in office even more so. No matter where I get news from you Obama supporters will always say it's from some anti-Obama source. Is there some secret Obama approved news agency that I should be getting news from? Oh wait, they'd never tell the truth and say something bad about him... You better hope that I won't be saying "I told you so" if he's elected and drives this country further into the ground than it already is.

This country needs another JFK, a champion of the people. Obama is not a leader, he is a celebrity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqksDCWZPHE

I disagree with you. I believe Obama is going to be a great leader. I believe he will be a much more active and great leader then McCain ever could be.
No matter what the obama supporters say you will always say that we are voting for him because hes a celebrity or that we get our news from the left, but regardless the majority of the obama supporters (and majority of the country) can figure out the falsehoods that either campaign is spitting and pick the best of the two or at least i would hope.
You call Obama a Celebrity but look at the McCain Campaign, Sarah Palin is the epitomy of a celebrity, shes for the common woman? Yeah right, what common woman spends $150,000 on a wardrobe. GG Now stop calling him a celebrity.
I know the following you will jump all over but who cares these are shows that i trust to give me news.
Real Time with Bill Maher
Countdown with Keith Olbermann
and the Rachel Maddow show.
Nothing on CNN or Fake News (fox news)
I dont get my political opinion and news from Youtube, if you do you really need to rethink your accusations about the media.
The fact that the McCain campaign is using Joe the Plumber (who is unlicensed and was never planning or had the capital to be able to afford the business he was stating he was going to buy, and now has a publicist and manager to jumpstart his country music career) as their mascot is just stupid. Their campaign has done so many sleazy tactics to try and smear baracks name, and this is such a detriment to our government. Calling him a terrorist via robocalls, and basically slandering his name. Thanks for buying into it, Matt, The McCain campaign loves uneducated voters like you.
You also should really check out FactCheck.org before you go on helping spread the Republican Propaganda. Its a website that is not for the left of the right, its for the facts. and debunks both sides campaign materials.

[Matt D.]

Bill Maher? Seriously? He's a political comedian, not an analyst. He makes a mockery of the political scene and more or less instigates people to say what he wants his viewers to hear.

How is Obama a leader? Illinois is a state of failure. State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. Chicago school system one of the worst in country. Remember, can't blame the Republicans in the state, because there are none.

Explain how he's going to fix our country when his very own state is a disaster.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Thanks for buying into it, Matt, The McCain campaign loves uneducated voters like you.

Now you're bashing me? Classy. Calling me an uneducated voter is like saying you're knowledgeable about DSM head installs. Yet again the only real "comeback" you have to anything I say is by calling me a McCain supporter.

Here, how about LA Times? Obama is a Palestine sympathizer. Don't tell me you don't trust this media source, there are studies that there is no such thing as media bias.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...231,full.story

[Matt D.]

Do you really think Obama's plans are going to pan out? This country is in debt. We can not afford anything he has put on the table.

[A//// Guy]

I cant wait till this is all over! haha

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by M/// Guy

I cant wait till this is all over! haha

Hopefully we won't have to suffer through someone not taking an ad off the air and seeing it wednesday!

[Matt D.]

So my congress woman mailed me a letter after I left a message on her website bitching about her changing her vote from against the bailout bill to approving it. She replied saying it was needed, and why it was needed, but didn't explain how it would be paid back which is exactly what my concern was. In turn she sent me a copy of her floor statement to congress about the Act, and an article from Time/CNN about how $2 trillion was lost in retirement plans during the stock market downturn.

Wait... CNN. Tom doesn't trust CNN. This person voted for the economic stimulus plan. Obama and McCain both voted for it as well. I'll be damned if I'm not going to trust any one of them, because Tom doesn't trust the media source that my very own congresswoman shared a news story from.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

So my congress woman mailed me a letter after I left a message on her website bitching about her changing her vote from against the bailout bill to approving it. She replied saying it was needed, and why it was needed, but didn't explain how it would be paid back which is exactly what my concern was. In turn she sent me a copy of her floor statement to congress about the Act, and an article from Time/CNN about how $2 trillion was lost in retirement plans during the stock market downturn.

Wait... CNN. Tom doesn't trust CNN. This person voted for the economic stimulus plan. Obama and McCain both voted for it as well. I'll be damned if I'm not going to trust any one of them, because Tom doesn't trust the media source that my very own congresswoman shared a news story from.

I said i do not watch CNN. Not that i dont trust CNN. I just have no opinion on them because i dont watch it.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I said i do not watch CNN. Not that i dont trust CNN. I just have no opinion on them because i dont watch it.

Eat your own words.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I know the following you will jump all over but who cares these are shows that i trust to give me news.
Real Time with Bill Maher
Countdown with Keith Olbermann
and the Rachel Maddow show.
Nothing on CNN or Fake News (fox news)

I bolded it for you.

I know this is on YouTube but this guy has a lot to say that is very true and if you watch a few of his things you will be able to see a clear choice and a lot of truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvc0tYG_YpA

[311evo]

no matter what anyone says against obama, their allways wrong and get their news from somewhere else besides MTV, 16 year old girls on MySpace, and youtube, who seem to be the main media Backing O-bomb-America.

[311evo]

and Fox news is fake news why? because their not one-sided to Obama?

CBS news has spent 1.2 million dollars on Obama's campaign, while only 222 thousand on McCains.

Fox news has spent just over 400k on Obama's campaign, and just under 400k on McCains campaign.

The total for all the big media spending money on Obama Vs. McCain campaigns is double for Obama, then what it is for mcCain. Because he is, in fact, a celebrity.

[EclipseGST]

Question... So if you are not voting for one of the 2 candidates, why vote at all? In all honesty, does anyone think its going to do anything?


This thread needs to die a horrible death.