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Old 09-30-2004   #1
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CNN just displayed numbers that 53% thought Kerry did a better job and bush only got 37%. They also said that Kerry did a much better job at getting his points across. Another poll said that (results after the debate):
Kerry Bush
favor more 46% 21%
favor less 13% 17%

What do you think? Bush did not seem very credible to me as he was having problems answering the questions.
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Old 10-01-2004   #2
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Kerry is definitely a better public speaker, but that doesn't make him a better leader.

(I don't take sides on politics, and both of these candidates suck.)
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Originally posted by Matt D.@Sep 30 2004, 11:18 PM
Kerry is definitely a better public speaker, but that doesn't make him a better leader.

(I don't take sides on politics, and both of these candidates suck.)
I agree


Screw all the stupid bitching about it. LEts all drink and forget. :cheers:
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Old 10-05-2004   #4
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Yea Kerry's only thing he has going for hi is he can speak alot better in public.

Other than that Go bush!
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Old 10-05-2004   #5
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cheney won the VP debate.
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Old 10-05-2004   #6
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cheney won the VP debate.
I agree. I can not stand Kerry or Edwards but was expecting Edwards to walk all over Cheney which I feel did not happen.
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i didn't get to watch but the end of the VP debvate, but what i got from cheney was : vote for us or die.

scare tactics.
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You might be onto something ^^^. We all might die if Kerry is elected. Literally.
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hehe, you just proved that republicans are only good at spinning!
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Cheney owned, it was obvious! :whipped:
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hehe, you just proved that republicans are only good at spinning!
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Old 10-06-2004   #12
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I think Cheney came off in this debate as a pissed-off old grouch. Cheney has an annoying monotone voice and a habit of looking down at the desk/podium when he's ticked. I think a lot of the debate analysis is bunk, but does staring at the desk when you're citing facts inspire a lot of trust? Cheney succeeded in not losing on the Halliburton issue or cussing on stage. I think it was a clear draw and I support Nader (which does mean I'm voting against the democrats).
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hehe, you just proved that republicans are only good at spinning!
Oh c'mon ya tool. Pick an issue, throw it out there, and explain why Kerry's position is better.
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you want your job taken away from you and shipped over to another country?
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Matt D for Prez! And I think Craig would make a good Vice Prez! Think of all the hos he'd employ!
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you want your job taken away from you and shipped over to another country?
Nope, but if it happened I wouldnt blame the president for not stopping it. It aint his problem, it's mine. If someone in another country could do as good a job as me for less pay, then I should be doing something else.
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you want your job taken away from you and shipped over to another country?
I have mixed feelings about this.Yeah it hurts the people who lost their jobs, but it doesn't hurt the economy as whole.Allowing businesses to get cheaper labor, ultimately boosts their profits, which every business should be allowed to do, even if it takes shipping jobs overseas.As always, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.Being against this almost seems a little selfish to me, why should should one persons(or business's) potential to make money be more important than another?
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something key that cheney said durning the debate..:

"And Senator, frankly, you have a record in the Senate that's not very distinguished. You've missed 33 out of 36 meetings in the Judiciary Committee, almost 70 percent of the meetings of the Intelligence Committee.
You've missed a lot of key votes: on tax policy, on energy, on Medicare reform.
Your hometown newspaper has taken to calling you "Senator Gone." You've got one of the worst attendance records in the United States Senate.
Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session.
The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight"
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FYI, they meet on Meet the Press and shook hands a while ago.
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Originally posted by LightningGSX+Oct 6 2004, 04:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LightningGSX @ Oct 6 2004, 04:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ghettostyle@Oct 6 2004, 02:59 PM
you want your job taken away from you and shipped over to another country?
I have mixed feelings about this.Yeah it hurts the people who lost their jobs, but it doesn't hurt the economy as whole.Allowing businesses to get cheaper labor, ultimately boosts their profits, which every business should be allowed to do, even if it takes shipping jobs overseas.As always, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.Being against this almost seems a little selfish to me, why should should one persons(or business's) potential to make money be more important than another? [/b][/quote]
Shipping jobs overseas will defenitly spread the difference of lower class and upper class even further. Over time, it might eliminate the middle class as a whole because the middle class jobs are the ones being shipped over seas. There will be few rich people and many poor people. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It will be even harder for the poor to get out of debt also as inflation makes things even more expensive. It will help the economy some because money is in circulation, but there will be a huge amount of unemployment and poverty over time. I would rather see the government helping companies that start up businesses here than letting them go elsewhere.
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