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Old 08-23-2004   #21
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how is his wining tied into politics? can you explain that part a little bit more? it is pointless to go to a show if he's going to be there because he's done so much of show and go and his car is spotless ..

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Old 08-23-2004   #22
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This has nothing to do with Jason or his car. But for the sake of showing difference I have to compare the 2.

But here's the difference.

Juding was based on
-Interior
-Exterior
-Stereo
-Peformance
-Display
-Lighting


Jason went there parked his car, popped his hood, and Put 1 trophy on his Sunroof.

-Interior - his is custom but his Doors were closed so you couldn't see it.
-Stereo - He only had a Deck, no subs, or amps
-Performance -Great list but I'm making 74 more HP then him and my mod list is double his.
-Display 1 trophy
-Lighting - NO lighting.


My Car:
-My interior was on full display - Completely redone the day before the event so it was much better then normal - so I'd say close enough to his

-Stereo I have a much larger stereo set up them him.

-Performance - Like I stated I'm making 74 more hp then him. I included Dynosheets, and Full Mod List including pictures of Install, etc, where as I didn't see anything from Jason (but all I saw was the Isle Side of his car)

-Lighting I had 1 strobe light

-Display - 7 page Full Write up of my car, 12 pictures, dyno sheets, Installation pictures, 9 trophy's.

-Exterior - I'm severly lacking in this part which probably had the most to do with it. But at least it isn't a stock body kit, or a body kit in primer

I even Fixed the Rust Holes, and Painted my Engine Bay on Friday.

Like I said I know Jason, and I know his car this has nothing to do with him, he's a great guy and I like what he's done with his car. But I just don't get the outcome.

I'd say for this event 10 being ultimately perfect. My car was at about 8, Not everone likes the yellow interior scheme.
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You know where I stood with judging. Can't help the other two were a part of MNSC.

I'm sorry you're pissed Brian, your car looked good. I scored you at 78/100, which was your highest score.
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I appreciate that. I know the other judges came through early also, when I hadn't finished getting everything together.

I hadn't gotten my Rim/Tire on the front yet, nor did I have my trophy's, lighting up and running. Even you came through before I had all that stuff. Done.


Honestly even though I know my poorly paint matched body kit hindered me a lot.

I felt I should have easily made it up in every other category.


As for the political side of it. I know most of you would typically root for someone you know over someone you don't know right? well that's how I feel things went with judging.

Again I'm NOT making fun of or putting down Jason or his car. It is very nice car and he's a very nice person.

This is soley venting my frustrations. But at least I'm taking this positively and plan to do something about it for next year. I'll hopefully be doing a lot of show upgrades this winter.
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I scored you very high for I.C.E., and engine bay mods. I scored you perfect on your wheels because I knew they were brand new, and I knew you were getting yours there. I gave you more points on overall presentation and originality. I found exposed bolts on his (Jason) body kit, which was a little too "Tom"esque for me. I've seen you're set up and presentation, and I told the others that when they came through. I scored less conservative than the other two.
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I took several pictures - but it was hard to get them to turn out ok with the lighting.

But I'll post the ones that turned out ok here in a little bit. (probably after lunch)

I really wish I'd taken pictures of Jason's car just to show the difference's in presentation for those that are wondering.
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