head fused to the block ? - Page 2

M1L3S · 10-13-2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrAV...e_gdata_player

Made a video.

M1L3S · 10-13-2013

I have no clue why it won't come up.

**goodhart** · 10-13-2013

You need to get all of the head bolts out before the head will come off.

Are you sure you are using the correct hex head to get the bolts out?

TkrPerformance · 10-13-2013

The easy way to get them them out now would be get a stud remover socket that will fit on them with the head on it still

M1L3S · 10-13-2013

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Originally Posted by goodhart

You need to get all of the head bolts out before the head will come off.

Are you sure you are using the correct hex head to get the bolts out?

Yeah I bought a 3/16 socket Allen head.

M1L3S · 10-13-2013

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Originally Posted by TkrPerformance

The easy way to get them them out now would be get a stud remover socket that will fit on them with the head on it still

The actual stud itself?

The nuts/bolts are off

3 of the allen heads are rounded on the stud itself.

What would the stud tool grip onto with the head still on and only 1/4 of the stud exposed?

Theres seriously some kind of black magic keeping this damn head on

twack · 10-13-2013

make sure all the washers are off as well. ive stripped out one of the allens on a arp and i pounded a torx bit into it and prayed, and i i managed to get it off. i really can imagine the head studs swelling and being your issue. 123abc's car blew a head gasket and he drove the 20 min remaining to my house and the head had melted between cylinder 2 and 3. so i guess with that heat, possibly it warped the head and block to the point that the studs are no longer standing straight. But i think its stuck on the dowels

Mark Leasure · 10-13-2013

Just speculation, the head is badly warped and interfering with the studs.

enasnitsi · 10-13-2013

I'm pretty sure the studs have a 5mm socket head not 3/16. That didn't help with stripping them out.

That head probably isn't going to be to good after it got that hot. I have seen ones with a lot of damage after getting that hot.

**4seasons69** · 10-13-2013

To get the head studs out get a set of bolt extractors. Pound an extractor on and hit it with an impact. This will ruin the head stud but should get it out.

dsmreck · 10-13-2013

^ what he said. thats what we had to use for my oil galley plugs on my block. very cool.

**scheides** · 10-14-2013

Sure there isn't a bolt holding the water pipe to the head? I missed that once.

M1L3S · 10-14-2013

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Originally Posted by scheides

Sure there isn't a bolt holding the water pipe to the head? I missed that once.

No bolts. But in all honesty head stud #4 is completely stripped at the top. The washer wont budge. I think that one is the issue?

All the washers move around on the stud (I dont have a magnet strong enough or anything to get them off :/ )

All of the studs broke loose before a few stripped at the top. But that one wouldnt move at all.

**scheides** · 10-14-2013

Thats probably your problem then. That one is at the end of the block right? does the other side wiggle even a little? Not sure, maybe drill it out somehow or something, or see some of the suggestions above...

Otherwise....thermite?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCsbZf1_Ng&hd=1

**goodhart** · 10-14-2013

Does this thing have studs or bolts? You have mentioned each about 15 times.

**CornFed2.4** · 10-14-2013

If they are arps. Can't you just tighten two nuts together on the end of the stud and then try to get off that way? Worked when I did it.

dsmreck · 10-14-2013

i was going to suggest that but he said only 1/4 inch sticking up.

i would try a magnet on one side and a pick on the othr to help lift washers up.

**CornFed2.4** · 10-14-2013

M1L3S · 10-14-2013

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Originally Posted by goodhart

Does this thing have studs or bolts? You have mentioned each about 15 times.

The block has arp head studs. I removed all ten of the bolts that go onto the studs. But was unable to get the washers off of the studs themselves (so they are still sitting on the studs in the head). I was able to loosen and remove a couple of the actual head studs.

A few of the studs are stripped out and still inside the block.

But all bolts that hold the studs in place and apply the clamping force are removed.

Are 6 bolt arps 13mm head bolts ? Because my block has some weird stuff going on im discovering.

Sorry for the confusion. I mix alot of words up all the time. Im that guy.

mondale · 10-14-2013

Bolt

Nut

Stud

Do you have a welder that you could use to weld a nut onto the stud after screwing it on until just about even with the stud head?