CRAIGSLIST.COM KILLER

[spyder_dsm]

Saw this the other day on channel 9 News. CRAIGSLIST.COM KILLER.

Two presumed buyers of a car advertised for sale on Craigslist were charged Monday in connection with the shooting death of a St. Paul man last week. Dao Xiong, 19, told Sheriff's Office investigators that he killed Youa Lor, 33, of St. Paul, because he wanted to strip parts from a 2003 Nissan 350Z automobile Lor was trying to sell on Craigslist, according to the criminal complaint.
Passersby found Lor shot in the stomach and gasping for air Thursday in a ditch on a country road in Lake Elmo, the complaint said. Lor was taken to Regions Hospital in St. Paul, where he was dead on arrival.
Xiong was charged with two counts of second-degree murder when he appeared before Judge Elizabeth Martin in Washington County District Court. She set bail at $1.5 million.
Keng Koua Thao, 19, of Maplewood, also was charged Monday. He is accused of aiding and abetting second-degree murder for helping plan the robbery and stripping parts from Lor's car, according to the complaint.
The complaint against Xiong alleges that Lor had taken him for a ride in his car on the belief that Xiong wanted to buy it. Xiong told police, however, that he had no intention of buying but instead wanted to steal the car for the purpose of stripping a turbocharger from the engine, the complaint said.
Xiong told investigators he shot Lor with a .40-caliber handgun when they stopped on 55th Street N. and exited the car, the complaint said. Lor was shot once in the stomach, it said.
Witnesses who saw Lor's car in the vicinity of where Lor was found said it was distinctive for having "lots of graphics" on the hood. A deputy who later found the abandoned car on a trail at Sunfish Lake Park said the hood, bearing images of Lor's four children, had been removed.
Lor's wife, Katie, told investigators her husband recently had moved to St. Paul from Pennsylvania. He worked at an auto repair shop in White Bear Lake, she said.


Xiong was arrested Friday at his house in Oakdale after investigators used cell phone records to trace Xiong's repeated calls to Lor and verified that Xiong had bought the phone two days before Lor's murder. A Washington County sheriff's deputy arrested Thao early Saturday in Maplewood. Both men are being held in the Washington County jail.
Xiong told investigators that he had transferred several parts from Lor's car to his own and that more parts were loaded into Thao's vehicle.
The road where Lor's body was found is off De Montreville Trail N. in Lake Elmo, just south of Hwy. 36. There are scattered homes and farms nearby, and the victim was found near Green Acres, a skiing and tubing area.


The CRAIGSLIST.COM KILLER

[DoughtCom]

Man I was really hoping this was a bitchin' new site.

[mlomker]

I read this as well, it just seemed too weird to me. I guess it's a combination of my positive bias toward Asian people and valuing someone's life at a used turbo.

[C3L1CA]

So wrong! The guy got shot a couple mins from my house too, I always ride my motorcycle up there.

The 350z looked super clean too. poor guy!

[4g63tcrazy]

I went to school with the 2 kids and my GF used to talk to them occationally and she said they used to be nice and joke around a lot. It's pretty shocking. I hope they burn in hell.

[spyder_dsm]

Well don't go thinking that all of us asian (HMONG) guys are like that LOL... Those two hmong guys are just to dam stupid to kill someone for a turbo set up.. I say if they want it that bad work for it like the rest of the people in the world do to get what you they want SH*T.. But again not all asian "hmong" peeps are like that, just the stupid ones.

[Jungy]

I know Xiong, he is in my nat'l guard unit. It was crazy seeing his face come up on the news Sunday on wcco for murder. The kid is definitely different but never woulda guessed a murder.

[spyder_dsm]

found some more news letter of this incident. And he did it for a turbo set up.. What a shame.. to take a father of 4 kids life, just for a turbo set up for his 350Z.. anyways here is more stories of it..

Craigslist Murder Suspects Members of National Guard
Accused killer wanted to steal car, strip parts

Updated: Tuesday, 14 Sep 2010, 2:59 PM CDT
Published : Monday, 13 Sep 2010, 2:57 PM CDT

LAKE ELMO, Minn. - A man who was shot and killed in Lake Elmo was trying to sell his car on Craigslist, according to murder charges filed Monday in Washington County.

Dao Xiong, 19, is charged with two counts of second-degree murder in shooting death of Youa T. Lor on Sept. 9. Deputies found Lor, 33, in a ditch on the 8800 block of 55th Street N. near the Green Acres Recreation Area around 2:30 p.m.

Both men are members of the Minnesota National Guard. Xiong joined in October 2008. Keng Thao joined in December 2008.

“Neither soldier was in a military duty status at the time of the alleged incident.” Lieutenant Colonel Kevin Olson said. “The matter is being investigated by local law enforcement, and questions about the case should be directed the Washington County Sheriff's Office."

Lor was unresponsive and appeared to have been stabbed or shot. He was taken to Regions Hospital in St. Paul, where was pronounced dead on arrival with a gunshot wound to the abdomen.

Investigators spoke with Lor’s wife, Katie, who said her husband had listed his Nissan 350Z for sale on Craigslist. Lor had kept his car at an auto repair shop in White Bear Lake, where he worked, but was advised he needed to move it to free up storage space. In the meantime, he was keeping his car at with a friend – Kao Vang.

Investigators learned that on Sept. 8, Lor met with a Hmong man interested in buying the car at the auto shop in White Bear Lake, and the two drove away together in the Nissan around 1:30 p.m.

Between 4:30 p.m. and 6:30 p.m., two Hmong men came to Vang’s house asking about the car. Lor met with them quickly, but came back in the house and said he didn’t think they had enough money to buy the car.

Around 10 a.m. on Sept. 9, Vang spoke with Lor, who said he was in Lino Lakes and the prospective buyer was making arrangements to get money for the car. Around 3:18 a.m. on Sept. 10, A Washington County sergeant found Lor’s car parked on a trail in Lake Elmo. The hood bearing the images of Lor’s four children had been removed, a DVD player and gas cap were missing and the roof and trunk of the car had been spray painted gray.

Cell phone records traced the phone sued to call Lor in response to the Craigslist ad to a phone purchased Sept. 7 at a Target in Oakdale by Dao Xiong. Call records showed Xiong used the phone to call Lor three times on Sept. 7 and investigators obtained video surveillance of the phone purchase, which matched the description of Xiong in his driver’s license photo and in witness accounts.

When interviewed by police, Xiong admitted to contacting Lor through the Craigslist ad, and said he never intended to buy the car. He said he wanted to steal the car and strip the turbocharger.

Xiong said he made arrangement to test drive the car, and said he stopped the car on a road near Demontreville Trail. When the two got out of the car, Xiong pulled a gun from his jacket pocket and shot Lor.

Xiong said he took the car to his home and stripped it of several parts, then drove it to Lake Elmo and abandoned it on a trail. He said the gun used in the shooting could be found in his home, and the stripped parts could be found on his property or already installed in his own car.

Xiong told police a second man arrested in the murder, Keng Koua Thao, was the second man who met with Lor and had helped him strip parts from the car.

If convicted, Dao Xiong, faces up to 40 years in prison on each count.

[awd-drifter]

seriously one fucked up dude. i feel bad for the family of the innocent

[Alpha D]

Im editing my craiglist post right now. . . for the talon that's for sale . . .that is so senseless . . .steal the turbo (which is completely wrong) but why kill the guy as well. . .i cant believe such senseless violence. A friend made that comment on my facebook statues about getting shoot since they saw my car for sale i didnt think it was funny but now i know what she was talking about.

[Goat Blower]

Yeah, that's really sad. In the end, doesn't look like they even took the turbo setup. Two dumb MF's.

[spyder_dsm]

Yeah dumb MF'ers.. So to all you dsm'ers out there that has something to sell on craigslist.com please edit it or remove your stuff. The best thing to do is not to post anything on there anymore, other then some where you trust like ebay or Here on the forum's because most likely we all know each others.

[Alpha D]

Seriously i just got a phone call about my talon and the dude sounded shifty as heck. Im really nervous about this whole deal. I mean i was just testing waters but man thats quite a wake up a call. . .

[1G_DSM]

I read about this story on facebook yesterday, and honestly it's spreading like wildfire in the Hmong community.

As a young Hmong male I am truly disgusted and saddened by this story. Growing up poor and a car enthusiast (like how alot of Hmong males are), I understand the want for nice things but to plan and kill an innocent Husband and Father who is part of your Hmong community too is truly disgusting. My heart goes out to the victim's family and friends.

I am proud that police officers worked hard to bring justice to the family and friends of the victim.

[mlomker]

I actually wrote a paper in grad school regarding how the Hmong helped America in the time of the Vietnam war....such a hard working people with great values and families that stick together. I guess that's why I find this so surprising. Bad apples seem rare!

[CarPsyco84]

What the hell were these clowns thinking? Just call this dude up test drive his car, then shoot him and steal his car? Like they won't think of looking up who the last person to call him was... Wow stupid MF's. They need to bring out the ol electric chair in minnesota again for people like this.

[1G_DSM]

Originally Posted by mlomker

I actually wrote a paper in grad school regarding how the Hmong helped America in the time of the Vietnam war....such a hard working people with great values and families that stick together. I guess that's why I find this so surprising. Bad apples seem rare!

Growing up in the Hmong community I've seen both sides of the coin. I've seen people grow up and make something of themselves through hard work and education. That is something I'm extremely proud of considering not too long ago the majority of Hmong refugees who came here were farmers with no formal education or life skills that are geared towards modern city life.

On the other hand, I've also seen the complete opposite of that growing up...

[Halon]

Very sad story. I can only hope justice is served, and the families affected can find a way to find peace again.

[slowbubblecar]

I am glad I don't use craigslist.COM. I use craigslsit.ORG once in a while. I wouldn't be worried about selling something because of this. How many good transactions do you think have been completed before this happened?

[93gtpeater]

They didn't have to shoot the guy. They could of done something then killing a vguy over stealing some parts. they could of just stole the dam then. I hope there's two guys get life in jail. I can't belive someone would even think of this. Ugh makes me sick.