Evo X upgrades - Page 47

**mlomker** · 06-16-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Why is it so much to fix? Seems awfully high. Just labor?

Mostly labor but I suspect they're fucking me on parts, too. Those water pumps are $29 at cost. I'll know when I see the bill.

This car has a water pump driven by the timing belt so everything on the side of the motor has to come off. The timing belt was smoking pretty good since the water pump was no longer turning, etc.

Matt D. · 06-16-2010

Evo X has a timing chain. Are you sure you're talking about the correct thing?

Super Bleeder!! · 06-16-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

Evo X has a timing chain. Are you sure you're talking about the correct thing?

Dude is talking about his beater car, not the efo.

**Murlo26** · 06-16-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

Evo X has a timing chain. Are you sure you're talking about the correct thing?

He is talking about his plymouth beater car

**mlomker** · 06-16-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

Evo X has a timing chain. Are you sure you're talking about the correct thing?

Sorry man, talking about my beater that went down yesterday. I wasn't going to make another thread for it. I'm car-less at the moment.

Matt D. · 06-16-2010

Haha, it all makes sense now.

turbotalon1g · 06-16-2010

I just did a tbelt in the wife's civic not fun but will be easier next time I know to get the pulley tool before hand.

**mlomker** · 06-16-2010

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

I just did a tbelt in the wife's civic not fun but will be easier next time I know to get the pulley tool before hand.

I wish it had waited until the Evo was done. I would have worked with/hired someone on here to take care of it instead of a shop. I still need to do a CV boot or joint on the thing so the repairs aren't quite done on it.

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Dave told me that Shane looked at the Evo this morning and it still has problems...maybe a bad MAF and my suction line issue is not solved.

I think I'll have Shane look at the MAF part but I'm at the end of my rope on the fuel system. I'll need to bring the car to Full Blown and have them take a look at it.

**mlomker** · 06-16-2010

Shane called and it isn't really a suction line issue, it is a fuel pickup issue. In a straight line the car runs fine but turn either left or right and it knocks/misfires and all that bad stuff. I have an email in to LJ to ask a few questions about the hanger.

The MAF issue is that it is reading 4.9 volts at the current airflow. Shane speculated that the pipe was too small and that I need a larger one for more airflow. This is an AMS intake pipe and they only sell one size. It's possible that there's something wrong with the MAF but I sent an email to AMS to see what sort of power they've run through one in the past.

He said the car is at 430whp right now but that's the limit for the MAF and I suppose the injectors aren't far from maxing.

**Murlo26** · 06-16-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

Shane called and it isn't really a suction line issue, it is a fuel pickup issue. In a straight line the car runs fine but turn either left or right and it knocks/misfires and all that bad stuff. I have an email in to LJ to ask a few questions about the hanger.

The MAF issue is that it is reading 4.9 volts at the current airflow. Shane speculated that the pipe was too small and that I need a larger one for more airflow. This is an AMS intake pipe and they only sell one size. It's possible that there's something wrong with the MAF but I sent an email to AMS to see what sort of power they've run through one in the past.

He said the car is at 430whp right now but that's the limit for the MAF and I suppose the injectors aren't far from maxing.

Well I am would guess Ryan Gates was still using his stock MAF on his 566whp run...you aren't there yet, so I would guess the MAF is taking a dump. I have heard quite a few people have had failures with them...warranty!

**mlomker** · 06-17-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

I would guess the MAF is taking a dump. I have heard quite a few people have had failures with them...warranty!

You'd think so. I ordered an ETS intake in case I need to swap it in. I like it better in some ways.

I'm getting close to having to park the car for the season. Too many miscalculations on this project.

**Murlo26** · 06-17-2010

I'll be sure to give you a ride in my car when it's done then

(knocks on wood)

I really doubt the AMS intake has anything to do with the prob, but it is possible. You should find the problem before ordering more parts man, lol.

**mlomker** · 06-17-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

You should find the problem before ordering more parts man, lol.

It's either the MAF or the intake. Swapping your intake in wouldn't help if it's a design issue, the ETS looks like a good design, and trying to borrow someone's intake for a week (since I don't know Shane's schedule) is tough. If it's the MAF then I won't install it and just get an RMA for it.

I couldn't imagine a dealer being willing to warranty anything on my car. It wouldn't cost me anything to ask at Brookdale, but...

The fueling problem is the bigger issue. afaik the MAF is just preventing me from making more power than it currently has. I'm hoping to hear from LJ today...maybe I can bring it in and have him take a look see.

**Murlo26** · 06-17-2010

True on my intake, did shane try my MAF though? He asked me and i told him it was fine.

My car parts are free game for testing until it's time to use em

Yea I sure hope LJ has some ideas, it sucks that so many little things keep coming up for you preventing the big overall picture.

**mlomker** · 06-17-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

True on my intake, did shane try my MAF though? He asked me and i told him it was fine.

He hadn't when I spoke to him last night but I told him that it seemed like a good idea. Def appreciate your help. This stuff is starting to get me down, for sure.

I had a track day on the 28th pre-paid...hopefully I can get a credit or refund.

**scheides** · 06-17-2010

I like the maf-swapping theory but how does that explain why it behaves differently in a straight line vs turning? To me that is a fuel system problem. Find a stock fuel assembly stat, put a single walbro in it and eliminate that whole twin pump setup from the equation.

**Murlo26** · 06-17-2010

^Good idea..I'd say give LJ a shot...otherwise throw your old 255 setup back in and have DB throw a boost a pump on it. I am actually considering switching to a single 255 with a boost a pump to simplify things. After seeing how many issues you have had, i want simple.

Matt D. · 06-17-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

I like the maf-swapping theory but how does that explain why it behaves differently in a straight line vs turning? To me that is a fuel system problem.

Bingo.

**Murlo26** · 06-17-2010

We are talking about two separate issues...their is a fuel line pickup problem on turns, mainly left turns, which is present on the X stock if you road race, but seems to be worse with lomkers hangar setup. Then there is the MAF reading 4.9V and basically being maxed out...which to our knowledge shouldn't be happening since as far as we know, the stock MAF's were used on much bigger builds, for instance Ryan Gates and his 566whp setup which was still the stock motor.

turbotalon1g · 06-17-2010

I know its a little uncivilized maybe, but maybe an inline 255? its been proven on DSMs for 700whp on E85 thru stock lines.

I know its not using a baller piece but it gets the job done, and just throwing this out there, but I'm going to assume you can't do a 1g style twin pump setup?