Absolute Power! Free Electricity

iceminion · 07-01-2008

This is it guys, this is most important thing you will ever read, possibly ever.

After extensive research, I have concluded that this is not a hoax.

Magnetic motors: Free electricity, as much as you want, on demand, lightweight, non nuclear/fossil fuel.

First, lets identify why this is needed: Electric cars run off batteries have limited range, are expensive to build and are heavy hogs.

This generator is lightweight, lighter then any battery pack, you could build an electric car, and never stop to refuel/charge.

imagine electric race cars, faster and cheaper then our DSMs with no fuel charge, ever.

The entire world is about to get all topsy turny: The oil industry, nuclear power industry, and coal/natural gas industries are about to get totally screwed over.

So Trillions of dollars of industry and jobs are at stake here, I wouldnt be surprised if every inventor of this technology silently disappears.

evidence: jump to your own conclusion

google or youtube "perendev" and/or "magnet motor"

This technology is easily built by home builders like me, i have ordered my magnets off of ebay to build my own proof of concept motor, then i will build a big one for my car, if this is a hoax, its a pretty good one.

iceminion · 07-01-2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efCel...eature=related

iceminion · 07-01-2008

proof of concept video, homemade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI

Super Bleeder!! · 07-01-2008

I think this site should chip in and buy you a trophy for "most batshit crazy idea posts ever."

Have you actually followed through with any of your crazy schemes? Just wondering.

I'd like to see independent testing from a national lab.

Super Bleeder!! · 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by iceminion

proof of concept video, homemade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI

This video means nothing. It spins a disc but to do so its discharging the magnets and eventually they will be nothing more than rocks so in a way its still using "fuel", just an unconventional one.

No free lunch kids

Matt D. · 07-01-2008

iceminion, you do understand that it takes energy to create energy, right? Converting one type of energy into another is not 100% efficient, you will never come out with more than you put in. If this thing is so great then why isn't it all over the news as being a true perpetual motion machine?

Super Bleeder!! · 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

iceminion, you do understand that it takes energy to create energy, right? Converting one type of energy into another is not 100% efficient, you will never come out with more than you put in. If this thing is so great then why isn't it all over the news as being a true perpetual motion machine?

BIG OIL IS WHY MATTD!!!! BIG OIL!!!!!!!!!!

iceminion · 07-01-2008

Most people who have a somewhat decent education in physics and science respond to this with insults, swearing and generally becoming upset.

No rules of physics are being broken here, just a loophole of magnetism is being exploited, nothing more nothing less.

Most people who end up actually inventing something dont argue on the internet, they go out and pattent it and attempt to get rich and change the world.

iceminion · 07-01-2008

and yes, big oil has a majority of politicians on their payroll, and the news networks are under the iron grip of the special interests groups.

If you owned the largest, most profitable industry in the history of man kind(exxon), wouldnt you try to protect your business? I sure as hell would want people driving internal combustion cars forever

iceminion · 07-01-2008

actual company who is starting to build them http://www.perendev-power.com/emot100.htm

**asshanson** · 07-01-2008

1,250 kg and 24,700 euro = 2,750 lbs and maybe 60k USD
I can definitely see the advantages of having this over a DSM.

And a loophole in magnetism? Like there's a bug in physics which they're exploiting?

iceminion · 07-01-2008

ask god why this works, not me. here is another company http://www.lutec.com.au/

slowboy, technology to application isnt always as clear cut as we would like it, but the proof of concept devices work, this does not automatically mean that you can go to menards and buy a consumer level product, yet.

oh, and a 1,250kg electric generator unit you are referencing is a heavy industrial power generating unit, there will be lighter ones in cars.

I am not here to explain how this works, there are pleanty of videos online which do, like this one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4ND...eature=related

knowledge is power, and it sure seems to me like this is the real deal, pass it around, so far nobody has been able to PROVE that this does not work, and that is how the scientific method works

merkzu · 07-01-2008

I bet it works for a while and eventually they demagnetize.. and I'd guess that you probably get a lot less energy out of it than went in to making the magnets. Would be fun to make tho and see how long it goes

iceminion · 07-01-2008

neodymium retains its magnetism for 400 years. even if a generator built of these lasted 5 or 10 years it would be well worth our time.

MustGoFaster · 07-01-2008

A page about the motor says that the motor works "by focusing the magnetic field, the angles of the magnets and a special method of shielding." Also, "the motor does not require external power to start up." Brady reports that tests run have shown no diminution of magnet strength over period of motor operation, which was two months in one instance.

As the stators become engaged, the three rotors with off-set magnet alignment begin to spin. The speed is controlled by a governor. Without the speed control, the device would accelerate to destruction.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/new...MagneticMotor/

Well, lets' just hope this really works. Would be nice, just set one up in your garage and run forever.

merkzu · 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by iceminion

neodymium retains its magnetism for 400 years. even if a generator built of these lasted 5 or 10 years it would be well worth our time.

It's using the opposing force (like trying to push two magnets together) to spin the motor right? Even "permanent" neodymium magnets demagnetize when they are held in an opposing magnetic field.

Build one tho and see how long it goes with a little bit of load on it, then post it up

**scheides** · 07-01-2008

Freaking sweet!

Unfortunately, magnets are expensive, and supply/demand will blow the price of them through the roof.

Yes, they will probably demagnetize, but it I'm sure they'd be worth it to build.

Still, it needs to work in the real world, widespread, etc. It's probably going to cost us a lot is some other resource to produce the magnets or some part of the assembly, just like E85. Still, cool.

tpunx99GSX · 07-01-2008

Thats pretty interesting. But when the guy started the machine up it sounded like a combustion motor starting.

gofastman · 07-01-2008

how about we just plug an extension cord back into itself, you would need some sort of resistor pack capable of dissipating billions of watts of power to control the reaction however.
2nd law of thermodynamics > this

iceminion · 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by gofastman

how about we just plug an extension cord back into itself, you would need some sort of resistor pack capable of dissipating billions of watts of power to control the reaction however.
2nd law of thermodynamics > this

quick to criticize, not enough time to view the links, thanks for the useful comment