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Old 03-19-2005   #1
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Anyone invest in stocks?

Investments is something I'm really into, and happen to have some $$ sitting around that I feel would be worth putting into stock. But I'd be a first-timer, and am not exactly sure where to start. Does anyone here work with the stock market and have suggestions for me? I'm interested in doing about $300 into long-term, and $300 into short-term. (So small stocks is probably best) Thanks!
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Old 03-19-2005   #2
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Re: Anyone invest in stocks?

With small amounts of capital like that, you are going to want to do online trading. Etrade is a pretty good one. That way most of your money goes into actual stocks. I would pick just 2 stocks, cuz it costs $$ for each transaction. Then start doing research to find a good company.
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Uggh, just read our AIM box. Putting only $300 into the stock market is a bad idea, you'll do better in a good savings account after taking fees and transaction costs into consideration. I also wouldn't only pick 2 stocks, you'd be taking on way too much diversifiable risk in addition to the market risk.
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Yeah, with that small of a bank roll though, you pretty much have to go with one or 2 stocks. You will be a lot more unstable, but that is a risk you pretty much have to take with small amounts of capitol.
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I'd suggest an index fund over individual stocks though. www.sharebuilder.com is a great place for people new to the market to start out too. Most of the bigger firms require at least $1000 or more in your account (some are $500).

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You can do that. I am not a big fan of most funds though. I guess I like to make my own decisions as to what companies I invest in. You also have to pay the people that manage the mutual fund, which also sucks.
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Re: Anyone invest in stocks?

Well, I deposited $300 into a savings account. I still have $600 in cash I'd like to put towards something... Not sure if I'll put it in there as well yet.

Oh, in case anyone cares... I now drive a 4-door Honda. It was the price I decided to pay in order to pay off my credit card. Just couldn't find the right car for the right price. I'm sure now that I did that, something will spring up tomorrow.
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Index funds are far from being a mutal fund. Mutual funds are actively managed, whereas index funds are passively managed meaning there are no substatial fees to pay. A good index fund is the Vanguard500 which consists of nothing more than the S&P500 companies. FYI, index funds out perform 90% of mutual funds year after year...that top 10% is tough to be in, and no single mutual fund has been able to stay in it for multiple years.
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Re: Anyone invest in stocks?

Um, yeah, isn't this thread the same thing?
http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/showt...ght=investment
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Well, I deposited $300 into a savings account.
Thats a good account earning 2.6% interest too, plus you got $25 for free
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Re: Anyone invest in stocks?

Sorry Jakey, I never saw that thread. I guess I coulda searched, but didn't think the subject would have been touched on yet. Recommendations can vary dependent on peoples' situations, too. Doesn't hurt to have thoughts for each of us.

I gotta deposit this cash somewhere... it's going to end up either getting spent or worse, wasted at the casino.
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Um, yeah, isn't this thread the same thing?
I think we've gone over this a few times in misc. threads.
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Re: Anyone invest in stocks?

I think Chris points out some very good tips. If you want to start investing, I would at least have a minimum of $1K to start. I am personally a fan of mutual funds (Franklin Templeton), but one was started for me when I was born (or really, really, really young) and then I have add some to it over the years...but for the most part, it's best to have dividends reinvested versus being paid out (at least at our age). The only other investment I have is my Wal-Mart stock (good thing I didn't take Chris's advice to sell it ). That started when I worked there. I probably should have bought into Checkpoint's stock when I started as well, but it was only like $8/shr, and wasn't doing much. Now it has been over $20. Oh well.....
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Re: Anyone invest in stocks?

I would not buy stock for a short term investment. It's way too volital (sp?). By definition a short term investment is something that you should be able to get at fairly easily, on short notice. If you have money in a stock, especially with the small amount that you are talking about. If you find that you need the money sooner than you thought, then you may be forced to sell at a loss. Don't forget to factor in the transaction cost with that too.

As far as the long term goals, what are they? Retirement, a house, or maybe a car? If it's retirement, I would highly reccomend getting a Roth IRA. If you've had the account for more than 5 years, and are over the age of 59.5 than you can withdraw any interest you earn tax free. That means that you will not pay any capital gains tax on any interest you earn. With a standard investment account, you will have to pay taxes on your earnings. You can also withdraw your original contributions (not the interest) before the age of 59.5 if you have had the account for more than 5 years, and you are using the money for the purchase of your first home.

But back to the Stock investment stuff. First of all, If you have any credit card debt you should not be playing in the stock market at all. If you have card X with a balance of $1,000 @15% interest, any money you put torwards that card will give you a guarenteed 15% rate of return. It's basically money that you wont be paying in interest, which is kind of like earning interest, because in the end, you will have paid less interest on the balance. Second, do you have an emergency fund (go to hell fund)? This should be equal to 3-6 months expenses, and should be very liquid, as in a savings account. If you were to lose your job, or have an emergency car repair come up, then you can draw from this account to keep you on your feet. This is more of a personal preference, but it's never a bad idea.

Third, you mentioned something about if you just had $300 sitting around, that you would probably spend it on something. I don't think the problem is with saving the money, but with spending the money. If you feel that you have to spend the money just because you have it, then you should find some other activity to take your mind off the urge to spend it.

All that being said, the best thing to do is to start now. It seems like small stuff at first, but it adds up quick. I still have my first 401k statement from 5 years ago, which is about the time I started investing stuff. The balance is $29.94. I'm not going to say how much I have now, but I'm well on my way to being a 50 year old millionaire. If I start investing a little more as my salary grows, then that age will keep decreasing. Either way, I plan to be able to retire and live off the interest earned, without ever digging into the meat of the balance. I guess the point is to start NOW, while you have time on your side.

Regardless of where you put the money, You've already taken the first big step. You've made a concious decision to start saving. Now you just have to define your goals, and stick to them, and watch the money pile up.

If you fail to plan, then you plan to fail.

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