Is it possible to run 11.99 or better on my setup here.....

Onefast99gsx · 02-18-2005

Ok, so i'm penny pinching here and having a huge debate with myself on whether I absolutely need a Magnus or like to acheive my goals. My goals are not Horsepower, they are et's at the track. I would like to acheive at least 11.99.

I have a brand new PTE 50trim, 780cc injectors, Griffin FMIC 2 1/2" piping, Dsmlink v2, Fidanza flywheel, ACT2600, 3" exhaust, 1g throttle body, stock 2g head, stock 2g intake, and all the other little mods.... Will have HKS 272's by spring. BTW- Car is a '99 GSX.

Do you mandate a need for the over-pricey Magnus to achieve my goal? I'd like to save the $700 if my goals can be acheived without it. Bottom line- Can i make the power out of my 50trim and stock 2g head/intake?

Thank you...

I soon hope to end my debate.

AJ · 02-18-2005

Good driver, Good Track, Good Tuning, and a Good Run...... sure.

Alpine TSi · 02-18-2005

I would say consistent low 12's with that setup. Unless all the above criteria are met with a little luck.

**1ViciousGSX** · 02-18-2005

It would be close on that set-up.

I would say before spending $700 on the Magnus SMIM, spend a couple hundred on a 1g head and intake. That would get you there, if the tuning is right.

Onefast99gsx · 02-18-2005

Thanks guys! I actually have a 1g intake but no 1g head(YET). I've been looking for one for a few days now.

I ran a best of 14.05@102. with my old '97GST(sm16g) and now i wanna jump to 11.99 with my GSX. Something is wrong with that ;-)

I'll keep looking. I hate to buy a head off ebay. Maybe i'll find one locally.

AJ · 02-18-2005

That 102 trap should net you mid to low 13s with a good lauch. Probably better than that since a 101 trap speed had me in the 13.4 range with just a T25 turbo. Put the power to the ground with a good clutch, tire setup, and good track conditions.

Onefast99gsx · 02-18-2005

Yes, and that 102 trap was on a small 16g setup. Probably was the FWD! Wheel hopped like a bastard. The year after that 14.05, I pumped it up even more with alcohol injection, more boost and actually went slower et's because i simply wheel hopped even more. MPH stayed about the same 102ish. FWD's are simply for the highway and that's it. I'm a pretty good tuner i think. I have yet to learn all about dsmlink. I only tested it once before putting car away for winter.

I just wanna pound on my brothers back door is all. He's got a domestic car that runs 11.20's and for me to hit 11.99 would sorta make a statement.

Jakey · 02-18-2005

Well I know that Jeremy Brandt ran a 12.28 @ ???? with his '99 GSX a couple years back. From what I can recall his mods were stock 7 bolt, FP T28, AFC, 660s, and a ACT 2600. I'm not sure what he was running for exhaust at the time but I believe it was a 2.5" turbo -back. I also believe that run was made at Tri-State Raceway at Earlville but Allan may correct me on that one. I'd say this all gives you a pretty good chance of breaking into the 11's.

AJ · 02-18-2005

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

I just wanna pound on my brothers back door is all.

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Onefast99gsx · 02-18-2005

Thanks Jakey for your input. That's sweet hope. Even 12.0's - 12.2's i think would make me very happy. I'd rather have a low 12 second car that's reliable than a 11 second car that goes thru tranny's, etc.. left/right.

TheBlizzard · 02-18-2005

With that setup you should into the 11's even without the intake manifold upgrade. If you can drive and are at a decent track.

CRAIG

tpunx99GSX · 02-18-2005

Why would you use a 1g Head? If i recall the 2g head was better in a couple respects.

Onefast99gsx · 02-18-2005

Yes, i believe the 2g head is better in the long run because of the port angle or how the flow aims at the valves. I think if you're gonna get a sheet metal intake, the 2g head is better but if you're gonna stick with a stock intake, then the 1g stuff is better. That's not quoted by me, i read that on dsmtuner. What they say is that most of the hardcore people are starting to use 2g heads now.

Onefast99gsx · 02-18-2005

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Originally Posted by DSMStyle

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Yes, i guess that came out the wrong way didn't it. hehehe

**1ViciousGSX** · 02-18-2005

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Why would you use a 1g Head? If i recall the 2g head was better in a couple respects.

Untouched the 1g head is better. If you want the most flow possible, and are willing to spend the money on max porting, the 2g is a better head.

ACRucrazy · 02-18-2005

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Originally Posted by DSMStyle

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ROFLMAO!
I was thinking the same thing! LOL

Wizard · 02-18-2005

Stock 1g head has easily ran 10s on many 1g AWDs. So has a 1g intake manifold. Heck, even the old 1g Al Blaha MAF ran mid 10s. Oh yeah....they were on the same car. Al Blaha (and a few others even) ran 10.5 at 132 with only 2g pistons in his block too. His block was never out of the car.

As for myself, I have personally ran many 14b cars to mid 12s on race gas and my own car ran mid 12s on pump with 11.98 as a best on race gas. So 11.99 should be fairly easy with a good setup like yours. Biggest factors.....driver and tuning. You have the equipment.....(BTW, Curt Brown ran 10.7 in his AWD on a FP Green....or 50-trim no NOS).

Wiz

02-19-2005

My avenger ran 8.11 @87 mph on an 1/8th mile track. With alot less mods too... 560cc evo 8 injectors, stock engine/head, and a 20g with a cracked turbine housing.. (8.11 would come somewhere around a 12.6 1/4th) So, I would say you should hit that 11.99 for sure with your mods

john · 02-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

Yes, i believe the 2g head is better in the long run because of the port angle or how the flow aims at the valves. I think if you're gonna get a sheet metal intake, the 2g head is better but if you're gonna stick with a stock intake, then the 1g stuff is better. That's not quoted by me, i read that on dsmtuner. What they say is that most of the hardcore people are starting to use 2g heads now.

Wrong. I have seen 1g and 2g venom SMIM. The 1g is huge and the 2g sucks. Look at a stock intake manifold gasket. There is no doubt that a 1g will flow better. The 2g SMIMs are the same size as the gasket still, a hell of a lot smaller that a 1g. Unless you want to spend ~$500 on porting, a 1g head is a lot better.

92.5Talon · 02-19-2005

Sorry buddy, you can't publicly sell stuff yet. If you have something he might want send him a PM and ask him out of public view.

CRAIG