article on impeaching obama

SlowWhite · 07-08-2015

http://stop-obama-now.net/offense/

Thought this was an interesting read

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-09-2015

Sadly it will never happen,........

AwdGSX13 · 07-09-2015

We won't have him for much longer, even if they tried to impeach it would take longer than he has left i'm sure.

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-09-2015

But impeachment would send a strong message. A year and a half is a long time to do a lot more damage.

SlowWhite · 07-09-2015

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/04...html?referrer=

Example - hes planning on adding more people to help disturb the peace like we have going on.

And look at what has happened to the state of our country just in the last month.

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But impeachment would send a strong message. A year and a half is a long time to do a lot more damage.

SlowWhite · 07-09-2015

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/07/0...rd-immigration

Looking forward to this one as well. Looks like he wants criminals out of jail and now illegal immigrants in regardless of federal judges orders

SlowWhite · 07-15-2015

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/07/3693...paign=Politics

Well trade 5 jihadists for a traitor, but wont lift a finger for true americans in prison.

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-16-2015

And people have doubts about who's side he's really on,............

jeremy1375 · 07-16-2015

Is it just me or do you rights wingers get excited by any statement that has anything negative sounding about Obama in it - regardless of substance?

I'm thinking of starting a right wing website and writing bs articles all day just to watch all the hate, anger, and fury that builds up over nothing. Angry subscribers = $$$!

Today's story "Obama has bonfire and burns Bible, guns while fist bumping the Iranian president!"

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-16-2015

Can you left wingers not put two and two together and see something just isn't right???

We trade off five Taliban leaders and a shit load of money (it's true, look it up) for a traitor.

We make a bad deal with Iran and can't make the release of four Americans a part of it.

We pass a healthcare bill on the basis of lies told by Obama without the approval of the majority of Americans.

We turn our backs on one of our strongest allies in the middle east, Israel.

Obama stirs the racial pot in every incident involving a black person, forget the facts of the case.

Obama writes 47 letters to convicted criminals while he's releasing them. But not one word said for the young woman who was shot in the back by an ILLEGAL alien who was deported five times prior and given a safe haven by uber-liberal SF.

Obama's DHS/ICE has purposely stopped deportation of ILLEGAL aliens out of the USA. On top of that, DHS has been caught busing them into swing states to game the votes for upcoming elections.

Obama sends his DOJ on witch-hunts to purposely stir racial divides leading to riots.

Seems like these headline fucking write themselves. I can go on and on and on,...... So stop drinking the Kool-Aid and start paying attention.

Here's a thought, pick up the book, "Rules for Radicals" and read it,.......

jeremy1375 · 07-16-2015

The tactics the right media uses are x was done, but y didn't happen so x is fucked. It works for anything.

x = My girlfriend went to work today.

y = She was too tired to give me a bj when she got home.

Doesn't matter that my girlfriend worked all day, I get to be angry now because she didn't do enough, right?

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-16-2015

I seriously give up on you. ^^^ Typical response from a liberal mindset. ^^^

Doesn't matter that all of what I posted above is true, you want to try to discredit the source,..... Obama is supposed to be a leader (not a radical) for all Americans first and foremost, let me know when that happens.

jeremy1375 · 07-16-2015

I just try to have a reasonable discussion based on a valid source and accurate facts. Alfred E. Neuman would be a valid source for you if his views supported yours. lol

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-16-2015

OK, reasonable discussion,.....

Those "headlines" I wrote above, do you agree that they are true statements?

Go,......

jeremy1375 · 07-16-2015

We traded 5 Taliban members for Bowe Bergdahl. He was charged with desertion and had a history of psychological problems.

We made a nuclear deal with Iran. From what I understand, the U.S. still has it's own sanctions against Iran that haven't been lifted under the deal. Just because prisoner release wasn't part of the deal doesn't automatically make it a bad deal.

Obamacare happened. It's got all the ingredients of a Republican plan. If I recall correctly, the roll out of Medicare part D didn't go so smoothly either under Bush.

Israel is in a turf war and when we take one side, we piss of the other.

Every president grants pardons and commutations.

"On top of that, DHS has been caught busing them into swing states to game the votes for upcoming elections." - Dumbest thing I've heard in a while.

Obama sends his DOJ on witch-hunts to purposely stir racial divides leading to riots???
Fuck. Since when are investigations making sure everyone gets policed fairly witch hunts? Where is the evidence showing the motive to purposely cause riots? The shit is getting spun so hard it's laughable.

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-16-2015

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We traded 5 Taliban members for Bowe Bergdahl. He was charged with desertion and had a history of psychological problems.

Not Taliban members, TOP LEVEL LEADERS, and not worth the trade by a long shot. So you're saying that it was a good trade because we charged him with desertion afterwards. I'm sorry, the life of one deserter vs. the numbers of innocents that will die at the hands of those released is not worth the deal.

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We made a nuclear deal with Iran. From what I understand, the U.S. still has it's own sanctions against Iran that haven't been lifted under the deal. Just because prisoner release wasn't part of the deal doesn't automatically make it a bad deal.

That haven't been lifted yet,...
And why not ask for their release? As a good faith measure to show Iran wants a truce and friendly outcomes. What good does it do keeping them from us?

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Obamacare happened. It's got all the ingredients of a Republican plan. If I recall correctly, the roll out of Medicare part D didn't go so smoothly either under Bush.

No it doesn't, where did you get that from?

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Israel is in a turf war and when we take one side, we piss of the other.

OK, so we just took the Iranian side, now what? And is Israel in the wrong?

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Every president grants pardons and commutations.

Priorities?

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"On top of that, DHS has been caught busing them into swing states to game the votes for upcoming elections." - Dumbest thing I've heard in a while.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-bus-stations/

And where did they go from there?

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2014/...ens-around-us/

Same question here?

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Obama sends his DOJ on witch-hunts to purposely stir racial divides leading to riots???
Fuck. Since when are investigations making sure everyone gets policed fairly witch hunts? Where is the evidence showing the motive to purposely cause riots? The shit is getting spun so hard it's laughable.

By the stance and outcomes, do you really believe Holder and Sharpton and Jackson went without an agenda? Holder did everything he could to find fault with Zimmerman and Officer Wilson. Have any of them come out and apologized to either Zimmerman or Officer Wilson for misjudging them because the facts truly supported their innocence? No they haven't. In fact as soon as Holder spent the quick 5 minutes it took to admit that Officer Wilson was telling the truth and justified in what he did, he immediately shifted gears and went on the attack of the whole Ferguson Police dept to be able to change the narrative back to the "BIG BAD OLD POLICE DEPT".

SlowWhite · 07-16-2015

http://downtrend.com/71superb/obamas...illegal-aliens

So few new things I didn't know till today. On top of obama giving out work permits to illegals hes also go in to give them Medicaid and social security.

I also thought it was absolutely crazy that we gave Clinton so much crap about "I didn't inhale"
Though yet I didnt know obama admits to smoking weed, obsessive drinking, and doing lots of cocaine .

How did this not go viral... basednon society though he probably would have gained votes. For the cocaine part.

When are we going to start holding our leaders to a higher standard, one that should be required.

jeremy1375 · 07-16-2015

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The way you describe how the events occurred they would seem to be much worse than Watergate or the Lewinsky cigar/bj/lie.

If any of those things are as bad as you believe they are, don't you think impeachment hearings would have happened long ago? Republicans in Congress would be having an impeachment celebration if they had a leg to stand on.

And the part about Republican ingredients in Obamacare - I got that from reading all the bills proposed by Republicans for healthcare reform. You were the one who gave me the links in one of our previous chats. Do you even read what you tell me I should read? Apparently not. lol

We have to deal with Iran whether we like it or not. It took months of negotiation to get the current deal. I wasn't at the negotiating table, but you and I both can see what it takes for the Left and Right to come to any agreement in this country. I can imagine the difficulties involved at the table with Iran.

Netanyahu won't be happy with anything less than war on Iran. We went to war with Iraq in part because of his claim that Saddam had nukes. Fool me once... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN1HOVLf4C0

The Taliban leaders are Taliban. If they were Al Qaeda or ISIS, I'd be a bit more concerned.

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-17-2015

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The way you describe how the events occurred they would seem to be much worse than Watergate or the Lewinsky cigar/bj/lie.

Maybe they are,...

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If any of those things are as bad as you believe they are, don't you think impeachment hearings would have happened long ago? Republicans in Congress would be having an impeachment celebration if they had a leg to stand on.

Dems, Republicans,.... two heads on the same snake these days,,... Although it has been brought up many times (you won't know about it if you watch CNN, MSNBC, etc.), but John Boehner has publicly stated he will block impeachment proceedings against Obama, of which several have been filed over the course of his presidency.

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And the part about Republican ingredients in Obamacare - I got that from reading all the bills proposed by Republicans for healthcare reform. You were the one who gave me the links in one of our previous chats. Do you even read what you tell me I should read? Apparently not. lol

You might want to reread what ever it was. Most of the Republican ideas went against the complete take over of healthcare while fixing what was the existing system.

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We have to deal with Iran whether we like it or not. It took months of negotiation to get the current deal. I wasn't at the negotiating table, but you and I both can see what it takes for the Left and Right to come to any agreement in this country. I can imagine the difficulties involved at the table with Iran.

Maybe if the four Americans being held were black?
You're gonna see a nuclear arms race take place in the middle east. The difference being that those middle east countries, as Obama can be quoted saying about Christians, "Clinging to their bibles and guns", will now be clinging to their Korans and Nuked up ICBM's.

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Netanyahu won't be happy with anything less than war on Iran. We went to war with Iraq in part because of his claim that Saddam had nukes. Fool me once... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN1HOVLf4C0

Could it be because Iran has consistently been threatening Israel with war and nuclear destruction?

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The Taliban leaders are Taliban. If they were Al Qaeda or ISIS, I'd be a bit more concerned.

And you really think there is a difference? Three heads on the same snake. Who do think has been funding them? Iran.

jeremy1375 · 07-17-2015

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Maybe they are,...
Dems, Republicans,.... two heads on the same snake these days,,... Although it has been brought up many times (you won't know about it if you watch CNN, MSNBC, etc.), but John Boehner has publicly stated he will block impeachment proceedings against Obama, of which several have been filed over the course of his presidency

Maybe they're not. Do you think Boehner would block valid impeachment claims? No way. He's blocking the frothy claims that are baseless. I'd be just as happy so see an Obama impeachment hearing if it was warranted and so would most other Dems.

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You might want to reread what ever it was. Most of the Republican ideas went against the complete take over of healthcare while fixing what was the existing system.

I read them quite thoroughly. Read the actual bills and not a news story about them. The Republican plans look almost identical. Everything you hate about Obamacare was also proposed in the Republican plans. If you're willing to do the research, that is what you will find. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is.

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Maybe if the four Americans being held were black?
You're gonna see a nuclear arms race take place in the middle east. The difference being that those middle east countries, as Obama can be quoted saying about Christians, "Clinging to their bibles and guns", will now be clinging to their Korans and Nuked up ICBM's.
Could it be because Iran has consistently been threatening Israel with war and nuclear destruction?

There's no doubt about it, Iran dislikes Israel. Are you ready for another war? I'm not. We spent years with significant loss of life occupying and "nation building" Iraq - with billions spend and a shitty ROI. I'm happy waiting for an imminent threat before sending our soldiers to war again.

Israel continues to stir the pot and build on disputed borders. They're not some sinless entity that deserves our unwavering loyalty.

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And you really think there is a difference? Three heads on the same snake. Who do think has been funding them? Iran.

Huge difference. Taliban exist in Afghanistan and Pakistan. They aren't a worldwide organization. They became a player because we invaded Afghanistan.