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Old 03-27-2009   #1
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Project Black Talon

1st Gen Talons have to be my favorite DSM's, epecially black. I got lucky and found one last summer from a guy in Iowa. He trailered it here and sold it ot me for 650$ with no motor or tranny. I finally decided its time for my 1990 Eclipse to go, its rusting, blew fourth gear in the tranny to the high heavens, and the motor only ad 90 psi across the board. Still made 380 hp and 400 lbs of torque at MAP with an Evo III 16g . Anywho heres the talon..







I picked up a 2.4 liter 4g64 out of a 92 Dodge Colt Vista, at a junk yard north of Saint Cloud. Had the machine work done to it by John Gosh, great guy to work with, does great work, and is very helpful.

I am installing 8.8:1 Wiseco pistons, Eagle rods and ACL tri-metal bearings.






I installed the pistons and rods today. The wrist pin seemed kinda tight on the connecting rod bushing with the very first piston/rod I put together. It would slide back and fourth on the wrist pin, but seemed kinda tight. Im not gonna worry about it.

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Old 03-27-2009   #2
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Re: Project Black Talon

Nice, was it just no motor? Tranny and everything still in it? If so that's a steal for $650. I'm a 1g nut myself, what set-up are ya putting on the 2.4?
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Old 03-27-2009   #3
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Re: Project Black Talon

The talon came with no motor or tranny. Just starting off with an Evo III 16g, 1850cc injectors, E85 , BC 280's and lots of boost. Then upgrading to a Holset 6 blade Hx40
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Old 03-27-2009   #4
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Re: Project Black Talon

Wow, that's a hell of a clean car for $650! What a steal! Was it all stock, or was there anything done to it?
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Old 03-27-2009   #5
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Re: Project Black Talon

Heck ya, nice deal.

I would of went with higher compression if you are going to use E85.

Sounds like a beast keep us updated.
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Old 03-27-2009   #6
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Re: Project Black Talon

Holsets are for losers lol. Sounds like a fun build, but why bother with the 16g on the 2.4L
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Old 03-27-2009   #7
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Re: Project Black Talon

To get things rolling sleepydsm , thats all.

The highest compression pistons Wiseco offered was 8.8:1 for an 87mm motor, unless of course I called them and special ordered a set.

The car pretty much stock except the ABS was eliminated (I would have done the same), and had a walbro 255hp in the tank. It didnt come with the rims or tires shown in the pic but came with stock rims and tires. The tires looked almost brand new though!







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Old 03-27-2009   #8
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Re: Project Black Talon

Lookin pretty good!
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Old 03-28-2009   #9
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Re: Project Black Talon

Looks awesome. I didn't know about the wisecos i roll stock bottom end cause I don't make much power.
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Old 03-28-2009   #10
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Re: Project Black Talon

Looks great, and that's a steal for what you payed. You're gonna have me looking for deals the next couple weeks.
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Old 04-02-2009   #11
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I was debating whether to remove my power steering or not. Than I though why not run an aftermarket P/S pump with a built in reservoir where the a/c compressor used to be. Anybody have any input/ideas on this?
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Old 04-02-2009   #12
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Re: Project Black Talon

If you're daily driving the car, or if you do alot of 90* parking and slow turns, I wouldn't suggest removing the power steering. I took it out of my car, and sometimes I wish I still had it.
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Old 04-03-2009   #13
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Re: Project Black Talon

power steering is a must unless your feeling strong everytime you drive the car. its a very clean car for what you paid for it! Those are some HUGE injectors. I guess that goes with the saying GO BIG OR GO HOME.. What kind of power are you looking to get...
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Old 04-03-2009   #14
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Re: Project Black Talon

I am just fine without my PS, and I have a welded center diff too..

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Old 04-12-2009   #15
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Re: Project Black Talon

Project updates with pics



Installed rebuilt head with Arp L19's and Fel Pro Permatorque head gasket



Laid in the Brian Crower 280's and Unorthodox Cam Gears



Constructed the exhaust side and timing components





Ill also degreed the camshafts. If anyone else wants help degreeing there cams.......

Kiss my , it was a pain and I never want to do it again, lol.

I had to advance the exhaust 2.5 degrees and retard the intake about 6 degrees.

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Old 04-13-2009   #16
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Damn, isn't 6* like a whole tooth? That's a lot less overlap.
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Old 04-14-2009   #18
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Re: Project Black Talon

damn...this wants me to get a 1g dsm! nice and beastly build man! you still on the E316G?
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Re: Project Black Talon

This needs an update
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