IPR: Institute of Production and Recording

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 05-20-2005

Anyone have anything good/bad to say about it? If you do, please speak up.

IndiEP · 05-20-2005

I graduated from there a while ago. The equipment is nice, nicer than anything you'll be able to afford to use. But its pretty much industry standard stuff which is good so you'll know how to use it if/when the time comes.

The staff is amazing, I can't go on how great they are.

Don't expect to be handed a job when your done. The competition is fierce, you can get hired based on who you know and fired if someone doesn't like you or if you make one mistake. No matter how much/little education you have you start at the bottom. I only know two people that went to school and are currently working in music. The rest are self taught and managing to pay bills...I think.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 05-21-2005

That is a good thing to hear. I'm not going to expect a handed-down job when I finish. I know it takes knowing people and knowing what to do to get what you want after a formal education. Motivation, competition, and self-determination is what I'm in the game for if I realize it seriously is something I am into. I'm not going to be the best, but I'd like to be one of the best (academically). Thanks for your input Austin, what did you go for if I may ask? Anyone else?

armthelaser · 05-21-2005

My friend goes there and he loves it. From what he said you just have to get in working somewhere like The Quest, First Ave, or a studio and doing a shit job while you go to IPR and just work your way up. He got some job at the quest while he is gong to IPR, he said it doesnt seemlike it will be hard to find another job as long as he talks to the right people.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 05-21-2005

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Originally Posted by armthelaser

My friend goes there and he loves it. From what he said you just have to get in working somewhere like The Quest, First Ave, or a studio and doing a shit job while you go to IPR and just work your way up. He got some job at the quest while he is gong to IPR, he said it doesnt seemlike it will be hard to find another job as long as he talks to the right people.

Cool, that's sorta the idea.

fievel · 05-21-2005

the degree you get isnt accredited, and during the week i attended i noticed that there are a lot of people there that shouldnt be. Most people that were going there told me that they were there because they hate "normal school" and they like listening to music. Those kids arent getting anywhere when they get out of there. Just because you have an expensive receipt saying that you can produce or record doesnt give you an ear for music. Plus you will realize that none of the teachers there attended any sort of school to be where they are, and the guy that taught my synth class was a joke and i already knew much more than him. For the first week of classes they teach you stuff like how to open programs on a mac and how to save files. Its ridiculous, the entire school is aimed towards the kids that are sick of "normal school" and will give them the 30 grand. Its all about who you know in music, but if you want to get on some machines hennepin tech has a pretty good program that an old teacher of mine started up and its pretty good and a lot cheaper. But if you are really interested in music, start going to shows and playing an instrument and meet people that play and record that way. All producers play an instrument of some kind. Well, thats pretty much the end of this rant for now. Take it as you will.

Jakey · 05-21-2005

A degree which is not backed by some form of accrediation is about as worthless as no degree at all.

....My $0.02

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 05-21-2005

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Originally Posted by fievel

the degree you get isnt accredited, and during the week i attended i noticed that there are a lot of people there that shouldnt be. Most people that were going there told me that they were there because they hate "normal school" and they like listening to music. Those kids arent getting anywhere when they get out of there. Just because you have an expensive receipt saying that you can produce or record doesnt give you an ear for music. Plus you will realize that none of the teachers there attended any sort of school to be where they are, and the guy that taught my synth class was a joke and i already knew much more than him. For the first week of classes they teach you stuff like how to open programs on a mac and how to save files. Its ridiculous, the entire school is aimed towards the kids that are sick of "normal school" and will give them the 30 grand. Its all about who you know in music, but if you want to get on some machines hennepin tech has a pretty good program that an old teacher of mine started up and its pretty good and a lot cheaper. But if you are really interested in music, start going to shows and playing an instrument and meet people that play and record that way. All producers play an instrument of some kind. Well, thats pretty much the end of this rant for now. Take it as you will.

Hah, no need to rant.

That's good to know that none of their instructors don't have any formal education. I guess it is more about real world experience over formal education sometimes, but it'd be nice to know that I'm paying for a pre-educated educator. For that reason, I guess I am not too much more interested in the "school" because if they can do what they did to get where they are, I'm 100% sure I can do the same. I'm not really interested in going there to get accreditted with anything, but I guess more just for an experience. It's not the alternative to post secondary school for me, it's just another way I can meet other people with similar interests. I dunno, I guess I can't explain it very well at this point. I kind of just want an excuse to do something because right now I'm not doing much. I just figured it was local and kind of convenient because I looked into Full Sail for a while now, but thought IPR might just be something to look at also. Thanks for your input though. May the emo with you.

Kidding, kidding.

IndiEP · 05-22-2005

I have a diploma in audio engineering and two pro tools certifications and the school is accredited.

Fievel is right relating to most of the student body. To many students are fresh outta high school and go there cause they want a "cool" job. Not an age mature enough to know what they are getting into.

As far as "just getting a job @ a venue," don't count on it. You can't have ____'s job cause its already taken by them. I used to work @ a venue downtown for a # of years and it sucked. It pretty much drove me nuts, and I wasn't doing bitch work either. I come back and visit and its still the same old people, nothing has changed except new stage hands.
(*I'm not naming the venue either*)
Getting a job isn't solely based on your skills, it also has to do w/a demand. I believe theres around 200+ studios in MN, not including the un-countable basement studios/PT rigs. doesn't matter how good you are if theres no $ to go around.
I don't have to many good things to say about HTCs program, I was briefly enrolled there.
If you have $$ to throw around as a hobby go for it but know what your getting into for a career. hope this has helped.

www.IPRschool.com

fievel · 05-22-2005

Even though you get a degree you cant get credit for most of your classes if you wanted to transfer to a tranditional college. Im saying music schools are a waste of money in general in my opinion, i was just saying that he can waste less. And about getting a not being able to get a job places its not even about that, getting a real job that pays well in the music career is based on talent and people knowing that you have it, and i dont think a school can give it to you. They can get you a job as a tech at a studio but might not take that anywhere. i have a buddy who interned with wyclef last summer because he just flew out to his studio met with some people there and showed them his music and the programs he wrote in order to play the music live and the liked him and offered him the place. Its all about getting yourself out there and being able to do stuff with the music, not with the machines.

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IndiEP · 05-22-2005

Oh definetly. I just don't think 90% of people that go through music schools realize how hard you have to work and how much doesn't even apply to what you've learned in school. Different schools will have diferent styles of teaching, ect. but in the end you should learn the same thing.

If your interested in producing I'd take that $$ and first take music lessons/music theory , know an instrument backwards/forwards then work from there.