Anyone want to make a newbie make some good power?

[GGcloudIX]

Alright MitsuStyle crew, its time for the big parts list to be ordered. My mechanical prowess is nothing like the guys here, so i figured i would ask. Are there any local guys that would be interested in helping install parts on my Evo IX?

The first order of business is the 60k maintenance. After that comes the FP 73HTA Green, FP4R cams, Kiggly Beehive valve valve springs and titanium retainers, A1 head studs and some form of headgasket, possibly just the stock one? Also bigger injectors, a bigger front mount, and an 02 eliminator screamer pipe. Haven't decided on the brands on these. Also drop springs of some kind.
My goal is a reliable build with a setup that can be driven every day of the year without problem. Power wise i would like to get close to 480 or 500 to the wheels on e85.

So what I'm asking is if there are any mechanically inclined people that would be willing to help with any or all of the installation of any of these parts, or if there is a better combination of parts to use. Or even if you have a similar setup, where is the best place to order from?
Obviously i would pay anyone who feels they need compensation for their work. I have talked to Shane at DB and they can sneak me in before proving grounds, but i would of course love to save from paying shop rates for everything.

If you took the time to read all this and can or know someone who can help, thank you so much!!!

Derek

[cudvig]

I could help with this.

-Colin

[MorningWood]

I wouldn't do the fp4r's if you havent ordered them yet, they're way to big for that turbo. If you're getting a good price on them than its fine, but if you're buying new, go with the GSC S2's

[niterydr]

I'll be on Vacation June 8th thru 17th just north of Alexandria (Ottertail), but can be persuaded to back-trek an hour.

[turbotalon1g]

Sorry man, between work, school, homework, and possible getting my car back into one piece I don't think I have time.

Good luck.

I didn't realize you were that far away! Shit dude, I'd take it one thing at a time and be careful luckily you have the internet to help!

[v8klla]

Originally Posted by GGcloudIX

The first order of business is the 60k maintenance. After that comes the FP 73HTA Green, FP4R cams, Kiggly Beehive valve valve springs and titanium retainers, A1 head studs and some form of headgasket, possibly just the stock one? Also bigger injectors, a bigger front mount, and an 02 eliminator screamer pipe. Haven't decided on the brands on these. Also drop springs of some kind.

I'm afraid I can't help with the cheap labor, but I did want to mention that I have the following in stock

Gates timing belts
MAP EF2 turbocharger (would take a few days to build to your specs)
Kiggly VS/R
MAP Ultimate Duty Head Studs
OEM Head Gasket
FIC Injectors

I'd love to help you out when it comes to sourcing the parts!

[t-revzr]

480 to 500.. Must be maps dyno and not shanes..

[goodhart]

480-500 on what dyno? You won't get to that level on a green at DB. I would also skip the cams, valve springs, retainers, and head studs/gasket. You could meet your goals on map's dynojet/DB shootout mode without those parts and a Shane tune.

Also, fp4r's are kick ass cams for IX's. Not sure off the top of my head if the specs are different from 8 to 9, but it doesn't matter right now. GSC S2's like morningwood mentioned are also good cams, a bit bigger than the 4r's. I know the people I have talked to that have run the 4r's have commented on the quicker spool they can provide once some playing around with the MIVEC settings is done while tuning. They are definitely not too big for a green though.

[GGcloudIX]

Yes, the FP Green and the FP4Rs are both going to be gotten at a 5 to 10% discount, I feel they are as good as any to run for what I Want so I'm going with them since they'll be a little cheaper. As for power goals I'm not concerned with the numbers, i want it be to reliable. Shane told me my setup will make in the 475 to 500 wheel horse (corrected??) on e85 at around 30psi.
I forgot to mention the car already has a full 3 in exhaust, intake, upper and lower intercooler pipes, greddy bov, a wally 255, exedy clutch, and an AEM TRUBoost, among a few other misc. goodies.

so with that being said, can you guys provide some insight on why you would skip certain parts or what will/will not be needed? I don't want to penny pinch but spending top dollar on un necessary parts is also not wanted.

Thanks for the quick responses guys, and thanks for being so accepting of my Newb-iness!!

[GGcloudIX]

Originally Posted by v8klla

I'm afraid I can't help with the cheap labor, but I did want to mention that I have the following in stock

Gates timing belts
MAP EF2 turbocharger (would take a few days to build to your specs)
Kiggly VS/R
MAP Ultimate Duty Head Studs
OEM Head Gasket
FIC Injectors

I'd love to help you out when it comes to sourcing the parts!

Thanks MAP Guys!! Can you provide prices on the Kiggly's, anything 60k maintenance related, and any other injectors you have in stock??
Thanks!

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by GGcloudIX

so with that being said, can you guys provide some insight on why you would skip certain parts or what will/will not be needed? I don't want to penny pinch but spending top dollar on un necessary parts is also not wanted.

Because you could make that power without those parts.

[v8klla]

Originally Posted by GGcloudIX

Thanks MAP Guys!! Can you provide prices on the Kiggly's, anything 60k maintenance related, and any other injectors you have in stock??
Thanks!

PM coming over

[GGcloudIX]

Thank you Chris for the prices at MAP! If I still have the car by middle of next week I'll be calling and ordering most of the parts you priced out for me! Trades and cash offers are coming into me quite frequently......

Anyway, with the mods I currently have, Goodhart, you think i'd make around 500 (corrected) with just the turbo and fuel support on e85? No cams/studs/front mount??

[scheides]

Do a FMIC and at least the LICP, but otherwise I'd rock the stock longblock on the IX, with mivec and the turbo upgrade you'll be at the limit of the stock block anyways.

Whoever said 4R's are bigger than S2's is incorrect. GSC S2's are *the* cam to get IMHO but you have to do springs with them. I'd do tubular manifold or a bigger turbo before I did cams on an IX (and an X for that matter!).

[bramagedained]

I'll have an AMS FMIC and their LICP for sale soon when my car makes it back to MN... and a journal bearing FP HTA Red with not a lot of use

just sayin'

[GGcloudIX]

Originally Posted by scheides

Do a FMIC and at least the LICP, but otherwise I'd rock the stock longblock on the IX, with mivec and the turbo upgrade you'll be at the limit of the stock block anyways.

Whoever said 4R's are bigger than S2's is incorrect. GSC S2's are *the* cam to get IMHO but you have to do springs with them. I'd do tubular manifold or a bigger turbo before I did cams on an IX (and an X for that matter!).

If i got cams they would be aggressive enough to make power and definitely would be doing valve springs and retainers with them. I already have a LICP, as well as some other mods, as i mentioned a couple comments up. I guess what my real question should be is what is the limits of the stock top and bottom end of the motor? I don't want to push the limits, i want to be safe and driveable everyday of the year, that is 100% more important than power at this point. Its just hard to find a concrete number on what hp/tq/boost numbers are safe.

So I guess with the mods that i already have, and wanting to spend roughly 4 to 5 grand on the parts/tuning and install if needed, what is the easiest, most reliable, and efficient way to reach roughly the power goal of 475 to 500whp (corrected on DB's dyno)??

I'll keep saying it, but thanks again to all of you for being so helpful!

[GGcloudIX]

Originally Posted by bramagedained

I'll have an AMS FMIC and their LICP for sale soon when my car makes it back to MN... and a journal bearing FP HTA Red with not a lot of use

just sayin'

If you are interested in selling the parts within the next few weeks, PM me and let me know. I have priced out an ETS fmic, 3.5 inches thick. I believe they are a Garret core so should be good for what i want, if i'm not mistaken?

But if you do decide to sell any of the parts you just mentioned, PM me with a price, where your located, and what condition they're in and we'll go from there! Thanks!!

[bramagedained]

Originally Posted by GGcloudIX

If you are interested in selling the parts within the next few weeks, PM me and let me know. I have priced out an ETS fmic, 3.5 inches thick. I believe they are a Garret core so should be good for what i want, if i'm not mistaken?

But if you do decide to sell any of the parts you just mentioned, PM me with a price, where your located, and what condition they're in and we'll go from there! Thanks!!

That stuff will all be for sale soonish. I'm waiting for everything to actually make it back to MN before actually trying to sell it.
The turbo is already at my Dad's the FMIC/piping is riding back from Ohio in my car when it gets shipped back, which should be back in MN in ~2.5 weeks.

[goodhart]

Bryce made 500 dynojet on his old IX with an HTA green, e85, eBay fmic, ets uicp and pipe, and an exhaust with only a 2.5" downpipe. He was around 440 uncorrected at DB and ran 11.1-11.2 at that power level on all seasons.

He had stock longblock, no cams, no studs, etc. Stock manifolds and throttle body stock everything else on an act 6 puck.

[goodhart]

I would spend the money you saved on things like a short throw, shifter bushings, front motor mount, driveshaft bushings, shifter base bushings, rear diff bushings, and some good springs like swift spec r's or gt worx.