North Korea!!!

[1ViciousGSX]

WTF is Kim Jong-il thinking??? Is he ready to become Kim Jong-dead???

[TwoTalons]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

WTF is Kim Jong-il thinking??? Is he ready to become Kim Jong-dead???

Technically, North and South Korea are still at war. Doesn't make it right, just saying.

[1ViciousGSX]

But I think this will push it over the edge and lead to something bigger.

[TwoTalons]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

But I think this will push it over the edge and lead to something bigger.

There have been many skirmishes like this in the past. I don't believe either side really wants start major battles again. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by TwoTalons

There have been many skirmishes like this in the past. I don't believe either side really wants start major battles again. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

I wouldn't call this a skirmish, it wasn't exactly small arms far across the DMZ. This is by far the most extreme thing to occur since the end of fighting in 1953.

[Alpha D]

I still dont get why north Korea refuses to be like south korea which is such a BEAUTIFUL city vs the North Grey and dark. . .

[polishmafia]

I hope and pray that this will settle down between them. If this gets some more steam under it, prepare for the US, Russia, China and Japan to get involved.

[polishmafia]

Originally Posted by Alpha D

I still dont get why north Korea refuses to be like south korea which is such a BEAUTIFUL city vs the North Grey and dark. . .

Yes, they are at war because of the scenery.

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

I wouldn't call this a skirmish, it wasn't exactly small arms far across the DMZ. This is by far the most extreme thing to occur since the end of fighting in 1953.

Exactly. A war there is the LAST damn thing the United States of World Fucking Police needs...

[TwoTalons]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

I wouldn't call this a skirmish, it wasn't exactly small arms far across the DMZ. This is by far the most extreme thing to occur since the end of fighting in 1953.

"The skirmish began when North Korea warned the South to halt military drills near their sea border, according to South Korean officials. When Seoul refused and began firing artillery into disputed waters — but away from the North Korean shore — the North retaliated by shelling the small island of Yeonpyeong, which houses South Korean military installations and a small civilian population."

Guess I'm not the only one to characterize it as a skirmish.

I'll take your word for it that this is the worst thing to occur since 1953. I don't know and don't care. In the grand scheme of things, this is like lobbing spitballs at each other. Start worrying when the nukes fly.

[awd-drifter]

I was reading on the GVR4 forums, someone was actually stationed over there once and they said South Korea was prepared for any sort of attack from the North. Definitely gotta suck for those who had to evacuate the city.

I just hope we don't get too deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeply involved.

[TwoTalons]

"Skirmishes flare up along the disputed border from time to time, but this clash follows months in which tensions have steadily risen to their worst levels since the late 1980s, when a confessed agent for North Korea bombed a South Korean jetliner, killing all 115 people aboard."

The world didn't come to an end then either.

[tpunx99GSX]

I thought i read that this kind of thing happend last year in november as well. right after Kim-Jong Il met up with the South korean president. (ting tang tong)

[TwoTalons]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I thought i read that this kind of thing happend last year in november as well. right after Kim-Jong Il met up with the South korean president. (ting tang tong)

"The armistice signed in 1953 was designed to keep the peace, but North Korea has never accepted the maritime border drawn by the U.N. at the close of the Korean War, and the western waters have long been a flashpoint.

They've fought three deadly skirmishes there since 1999. The last one, a year ago, was particularly humiliating, with the North suffering one death and more wounded.

Revenge may have been behind the plot to take down South Korea's Cheonan warship, which investigators say was torn in two by a North Korean torpedo in March. If the young son wanted to earn the military's loyalty, it would have been a prize: 46 South Koreans died in the worst attack on Seoul's military since the Korean War. Pyongyang denies involvement, as it has past provocations.

However, neither nation wants another war, and both have sought ways to repair relations without losing face."

[tpunx99GSX]

North Korea is smaller than the state of Mississippi, (literally, 46,543 square miles vs mississippi's 47,689 sq mi) just throw a single missle at it and call this crap overwith.

[sleepydsm]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

North Korea is smaller than the state of Mississippi, (literally, 46,543 square miles vs mississippi's 47,689 sq mi) just throw a single missle at it and call this crap overwith.

I am almost certain their military is larger in number than the US's. If thats a fact, think about THAT. Wow.

[TwoTalons]

Originally Posted by sleepydsm

I am almost certain their military is larger in number than the US's. If thats a fact, think about THAT. Wow.

I'd be curious to know how much of that was built up when they had the backing of mother Russia. They don't get squat now.

[Matt D.]

US numbers (quick stats I pulled from around the internet)
Budget: $762.1bn (Services, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...udget_for_2010)

Personnel Total: A lot. Add up all the active duty and reserves. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...rces#Personnel)

Equipment
Tanks: Over 9000 M1 Abrams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams)
Submarines: 75 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submari...ed_States_Navy)
Jet Fighters: 3261 as of 2006 including 91 F-22s (http://www.web-surfer.net/2009/04/ho...-there-in.html)

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by sleepydsm

I am almost certain their military is larger in number than the US's. If thats a fact, think about THAT. Wow.

You almost made me spit out my coffee on that one.
I do not believe ANYONE has a larger military than the US. Its our number 1 exported good.

[Halon]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

You almost made me spit out my coffee on that one.
I do not believe ANYONE has a larger military than the US. Its our number 1 exported good.

According to this, the US is #3. Weird I don't see N. Korea on there though...
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mi...rces-personnel