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Old 08-28-2007   #1
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Anyone else have this happen?

I took the car out for a beat run and in the middle of 3rd gear I had a massive blue cloud of smoke come out of my engine bay area. Oil on the windsheild, and on the tires. It was everywhere!! I got it home costing into the driveway. I left it sit until yesterday when I got some more oil. I checked everything out quick. I started it up and, it ran rough. I shut her off and noticed all the oil I had put in had been pumped out by my nice new mitsu oil pump!! I took a closer look to the oil filter area becuase, thats where the oil seemed to be coming from (keeping in mind I just replaced the oil filter housing that some how cracked). I grabbed my oil filter which I had tightened a little extra with an oil filter wrench, and it seemed loose!!!! I couldn't believe that it had backed off. Well, it actually didnt back off. The gasket some how blew itself out! I didn't double up the gasket or anything stupid like that. Needless to say I'm going to drop my oil pan and throw some new rod bearings in just to be safe since they are cheap. I will never use a valvoline oil filter again!!!
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Old 08-28-2007   #2
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

^valvoline oil filter, that is probably it.
I use napa gold, no problems so far, if not any other Wix made filter.
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Old 08-28-2007   #3
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

Too tight - could be you squeezed the o-ring out a little in one spot. Pretty sure it doesn't matter what oil filter you use, when you are talking about structural integrity. Filtering performance would be the only difference.
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Old 08-28-2007   #4
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

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Too tight - could be you squeezed the o-ring out a little in one spot. Pretty sure it doesn't matter what oil filter you use, when you are talking about structural integrity. Filtering performance would be the only difference.
Yeah, to tight did pass through my mind.
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Old 08-28-2007   #5
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

Did you use a new orange o ring when you installed your oil coolant cooler?
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Old 08-28-2007   #6
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

There is also the problem with the bolt that holds the oil cooler on(water oil cooler) is also the threads that hold the filter on. Well that bolt thingy loosens up which will loosen the oil filter.

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/oilcool.html
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Old 08-28-2007   #7
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There is also the problem with the bolt that holds the oil cooler on(water oil cooler) is also the threads that hold the filter on. Well that bolt thingy loosens up which will loosen the oil filter.

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/oilcool.html
I would never use those oil filter housing that have coolant running though them. Mine is just the oil filter housing with the sending unit on it and thats it.
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Old 08-28-2007   #8
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I would never use those oil filter housing that have coolant running though them. Mine is just the oil filter housing with just the sending unit on it and thats it.
So you are using a 91-94 oil filter housing unit with out the cooler?
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Old 08-28-2007   #9
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

I run the external oil cooler on my setup-no problems like that!

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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

That happend to my bro this summer. We were going down hwy 10 and were pulling on a procharged firebird. His filter o-ring blew got the his car and my car full of oil. Put a new filter on it filled it full of oil. The engine was fine but it starved the pte61 and burnt it.

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Old 08-28-2007   #11
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Wow. Mark, you really need typing classes. My brain hurts from reading that man. lol.

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Old 08-28-2007   #12
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

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Did you use a new orange o ring when you installed your oil coolant cooler?

That one went on me. Took me forever to figure it out, because it *looked* like the oil was coming from the filter side of the cooler. Annoying little gasket.
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Old 08-28-2007   #13
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That one went on me. Took me forever to figure it out, because it *looked* like the oil was coming from the filter side of the cooler. Annoying little gasket.
From my experience you can only use it once and that is it. The o ring stretches when you take it off and try to reuse it.

Santa I see your using a external cooler. I am thinking about going that route next year.
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I run the external oil cooler on my setup-no problems like that!

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That has nothing to do with the oil filter o-ring blowing out It was most likely me over tightening it.

I have no oil cooler as of right now. Just a regualr oil filter housing, like I had said above. Wix filter just arrived from napa, and I'll be swinging by MAP to grab a set of rod bearings just becuase. It will be running again tonight. Its just a pain in the ass cleaning all the oil off the new driveway!!!! My engine bay actually looked kind of decent until now lol. My oil filter had lossened itself last year when I was racing Jake in his s/c viper. I was lucky it didnt come all the way off. I tightened it up and on with the night.
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on the windsheild, and on the tires. It was everywhere!!
thats what she said!
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

So wait, you have no oil cooler at all? no external and no water?
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Re: Anyone else have this happen?

Did you port the relief valve opening on your filter housing? If you have no balance shafts and no squirters you can get insane oil pressure that blows shit out.

A few min with a die grinder can drop your oil pressure 40psi.
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Did you port the relief valve opening on your filter housing? If you have no balance shafts and no squirters you can get insane oil pressure that blows shit out.

A few min with a die grinder can drop your oil pressure 40psi.
I have oil squirter's machined into my block. I didn't port the housing I didn't want to get any metal shavings into my oil pan. I'm going to be doing that now that I'm replacing my rod bearings. I also think I've got a little excessive crank case pressure, that might be causing the problem also.
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