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Old 04-30-2007   #1
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Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/30/sc...ase/index.html

Story Highlights
• Ruling protects police from lawsuits by suspects who lead them on chases
• Supreme Court rules 8-1 against Georgia teen paralyzed in crash
• Police car rammed teen's car off road; teen had been driving 100 mph
• Police dash-cam video played a key role in the high court's decision

By Bill Mears
CNN Washington Bureau


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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday gave police officers significant protection from lawsuits by suspects who lead them on car chases.

The justices ruled 8-1 against Georgia teenager Victor Harris, who was left a quadriplegic after a police vehicle rammed his car off the road in 2001.

A police officer used "reasonable force" when ramming the teen's speeding car, the high court ruled. A videotape of the pursuit played a key role in the decision.

"The car chase that [Harris] initiated in this case posed substantial and immediate risk of serious physical injury to others," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority. "[Deputy Timothy] Scott's attempt to terminate the chase by forcing [Harris] off the road was reasonable."

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals had ruled that Harris' lawsuit against the deputy could go forward. The justices overturned the lower court ruling, meaning the suit can be dismissed.

Eight of the nine justices said they had closely viewed the videotape of the six-minute nighttime chase. It was taken from the dashboard of Scott's car and from the vehicle of another deputy from a neighboring county.

Similar pursuits have been aired, sometimes live, on many cable and broadcast television stations, and entire programs have been built around such incidents, such as "World's Wildest Police Chases."

Tape fascinates justices
The tape seemed to fascinate some of the justices. Scalia referred to the videotape repeatedly in his opinion, calling it a "wrinkle" that clearly swayed the bench.

Departing from the lower court's conclusions, Scalia wrote, "The videotape tells a different story."

He continued, "Far from being the cautious and controlled driver the lower court depicts, what we see on the video more closely resembles a Hollywood-style car chase of the most frightening sort, placing police officers and innocent bystanders alike at greater risk of serious injury."

Harris, 19 at the time, was driving on a suspended license, when he refused to pull over for speeding. The police video shows him accelerating at speeds more than 100 mph, leading officers across two counties outside Atlanta. He can be seen crossing the double yellow line on the road to pass about three dozen cars.

At one point, Harris is shown pulling into a shopping center parking lot, with Scott, a Coweta County deputy, and two colleagues trying to block him. Harris then hits Scott's vehicle while fleeing. The officer radioes his supervisor, requesting permission to use potentially deadly force to stop Harris.

"Let me have him, my car's already tore up," Scott says on the tape.

Police tactics described
The supervisor gives permission for the PIT maneuver -- precision intervention technique -- which involves the police car tapping the pursued vehicle at an angle so that it spins out. "Go ahead and take him out," the supervisor orders.

But Scott later said Harris was going too fast and he was worried about other drivers on the road, so the officer rammed the escaping Cadillac directly with his push bumper, causing it to go airborne down an embankment and crash.

Now 25, Harris resides at an assisted-living facility. He refused an interview to discuss the case, as did Scott. In previous testimony, Harris said he was scared when officers first turned on their sirens and that he did not want his car impounded.

"[Harris'] version of events is so utterly discredited by the record that no reasonable jury could have believed him," Scalia said. "The Court of Appeals should not have relied on such visible fiction; it should have viewed the facts in the light depicted by the videotape."

The lone dissenter was Justice John Paul Stevens, who made his views known in a rare oral summary during Monday's public session. He said the other justices got carried away by the tape.

"I can only conclude that my colleagues were unduly frightened by two or three images on the tape," Stevens noted.

The justice said it was not clear the chase threatened the lives of other citizens since the roads were mostly empty. "The risk inherent in justifying unwarranted police conduct on the basis of unfounded assumptions are unacceptable, particularly when less dramatic measures ... could have avoided such a tragic result," he cautioned.

First case on car chases
It was the first time the high court has heard a case involving police chases, and federal appeals courts have been split on the issue. Under generally applied Supreme Court precedents, an officer must show a suspect poses a "significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others" before using deadly force.

And other federal courts have said officers can be stripped of qualified immunity from lawsuits if every "reasonable" law enforcement official would have known his actions were violating clearly established law.

Law enforcement groups argued a ruling against Scott would hamstring every police official, who often would have to make split-second decisions about whether to wait until someone gets hurt -- including innocent victims or the officer himself -- before they could stop escaping motorists.

Legal analysts said it was not surprising the conservative court under Chief Justice John Roberts was inclined to give officers the kind of discretion they have sought, particularly since 9/11.

"Nobody is going to suddenly say its OK to use deadly force against a fleeing felon who poses no threat to society," said Edward Lazarus, a Supreme Court legal analyst. "They're just going to say, I think, that a speeding car going down a two-lane road at 100 mph is, in and of itself, necessarily a danger."

Many police departments have specific policies about when to chase and when to hold back, but there are no national statistics on how jurisdictions handle such situations. A 2004 study by the University of Washington showed 260 to 325 people were killed in high-speed crashes involving police, from 1994 to 2002.


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Old 04-30-2007   #2
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Re: Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

good. you shouldnt run from the cops. if you do, they should be allowed to do what they have to in order to stop you.
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Re: Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

agreed.
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Re: Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

hmm, strange case. quiet road and everything.


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good. you shouldnt run from the cops. if you do, they should be allowed to do what they have to in order to stop you.
Um, wait until you are in the position then you should judge on that.
I think that trying to outrun cops in a sweet caddy isn't a bright idea, maybe something a little faster would work.
Technically if you leave say *edit* cause you know the cops are coming that is the same thing as "running" from the cops.
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Re: Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

If their lights come on... I stop. That's the difference, I don't fuck around with that shit. If you're doing 100+ on the highway with 1+ cops behind you... you're a moron and you deserve whatever is coming. You can't outrun the radio, unless you live in Reno... haha.
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Re: Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

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If their lights come on... I stop. That's the difference, I don't fuck around with that shit. If you're doing 100+ on the highway with 1+ cops behind you... you're a moron and you deserve whatever is coming. You can't outrun the radio, unless you live in Reno... haha.

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Re: Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

I agree with the ruling. If your putting yourself in a position like that, there's a good chance your putting others at risk as well. Seems like Darwinism to me.... If your not intelligent enough to not put other people in danger, and not get chased by the cops in the first place, good riddance
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good. you shouldnt run from the cops. if you do, they should be allowed to do what they have to in order to stop you.
+1. What if that kid hit some innocent people and hurt or killed them? What happened to him is his own damn fault IMO.
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Re: Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

Aly was in a high speed chase and they ended up piting the guy and fliping his truck. They also shot the guy 3 times on of the took off his thumb sencse he was shooting at her and her partner with a 30-30 and to top it all off he had a big as knife on him and had on tin foil under pants.

You have to be very stuped to run at high speeds they will get you in the end
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Re: Court: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

I agree with the ruling, who wouldn't? I have taken off on cops before on my crotch rocket but they weren't behind me with their lights on, I just saw them start to turn around and I just gunned it. I am sure most people who have riden bikes for awhile have done the same thing.

But I have been pulled over a few times too on them, if I see lights I pull over end of story. It sucks what happened but you can't blame the police at all.
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