04-12-2005
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Br0k3N
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Dirty Savage Kid
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need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
Im picking up a wrecked 1g ( 90 talon AWD turbo). I test drove it sunday and the tranny was amazing.
*It felt like a brand new transmission.
*It didnt pull hard though, I have a feeling the timing might be off a little bit. ( new timing belt was on.)
*The rear passenger quarter / end of door were smashed pretty good but it is fixable.
*The turbo seemed to boost about normal.
*Leather interior
*100k miles on it
I will be giving him 900 dollars for the car and I can go a couple different routes depending on what people think a 90 awd is worth in top running condition and looking good with new paint.
1 - Part the car, the motor should be good ( im checkin compression), tranny is great and everything but the blower motor works.
2- Fix the body damage, paint the car, fix the timing, get a blower motor and fix stupid little things ( filters / fluids / gaskets etc.) Sell the car. What do you figure it would be worth to someone?
3- Keep the chassis, part everything. And build it for my drag car. ( id drop the drive line and upgrade to the 92+ drivetrain with built motor, everything would go).
Ideas, help, advice.. please and thank you.
NOTE : The damage DID NOT effect anything other than cosmetics, still drives as if it wasnt there. Door still shuts.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Red Wing, MN
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
Before it happens I am going to say it now. No asking for parts of this car until he makes a for sale thread if he decides to go that route. Opinions on what he should do only.
My advice would be if you have the resources to fix the body and get it looking good then just keep it and make it your drag car. If its going to cost you thousands of dollars to fix the body then parting it out my be a better idea for you.
A good running 90 AWD with a great body that is mostly stock could be sold for around 3500 and up depending on the buyer.
CRAIG
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04-12-2005
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Tha MIG Masta!
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
I agree w/3500+/-. Really think about how much it will take in parts to get things fixed and as usual, expect the unexpected. Then take into account how much $ you could profit and how long it will take you to complete all of this. I have a car sitting in my garage that was "free", (free cars are never free) and I regret ever bringing the thing home, for what it will sell for and the time I've put into it, it just wasn't worth it.
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04-12-2005
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Guest
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
I like idea number three. It seems to be the funnest route.
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04-12-2005
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Apple Valley, MN
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
You could just fix the severe body problems and sell it as a clean project car to someone else too.
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04-12-2005
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Br0k3N
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
im hoping that the timing is off to some degree. If that is the case, timing belt, paint ( daddy and i paint and do body shit), and some stupid minor repairs wont be a great deal of work. I need to cut a rear quarter out of another car or buy one dealership style ( if they offer). It will be more time than money spent. It has a new alternator, new belts, tranny, engine is good etc. I think it might need axles.
I could get the car in and out in less than 2 weeks while working fulltime. It would be nice to have a buyer lined up before the work gets done.
As for the drag idea, Id prefer start with my other car ( 6/4 rear lsd ) for that. It already has the neccessary drive train and a good motor ( in spec comp. numbers).
If i could fix this car and get 3500+ for it, that is exactly what I would do. First it would take a trip to qpr for this that and the other thing.
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04-12-2005
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
Not many people will want a car that has had bodywork done to it, so I would do all the work and then find a buyer... If they dont ask about any bodywork thats great and the price will stay nice and high, but if it was it was wrecked and you tell them you fixed it, they might look for a lower price.
I would either sell it after you fix it up a little, or keep it, depending on what else you want to do with DSMs...
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04-12-2005
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Br0k3N
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
Its getting a new panel put in. Not like its getting loaded with bondo or anything. The entire car will get cleaned up nice and painted whether i keep it or sell it. The dad went to college for automotive collision repair. And the way it sits now, the car was not effected in any way besides cosmetics.
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Any 2 card caller.
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
Just remember that blue book for retail value (dealer price) is 2700. Private party value in good condition is 1550. So 3500 might be a little steep unless you find someone that knows absolutely nothing about these cars.
I would say around 2500 would be the max you could pull out of a 90. Terina's 92 in immaculate condition was valued at 3600 (with an automatic and very low mileage).
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Red Wing, MN
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
Yeah but you can't base a DSM of book value, especially the AWD turbo models. They almost always sell for quite a bit higher than they book for unless someone is offereing a really good deal or the car is damaged. Maybe Steve Hill can chime in here since he deals with a lot of this stuff.
CRAIG
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04-13-2005
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Br0k3N
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
id appreciate that alot if he would.
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04-13-2005
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Business as usual
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
I would keep it, who cares about the body. I would have it as my DD and work on the "race car." Are you keeping the stock block in your race car? I parted out two 90's and still have a lot of parts. Parting out is not an quick solution to $$$. A 90 has several specific parts that will not work on 91-99 so you have a smaller range of shoppers. However the damand (price) will be higher as it is more rare.
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04-13-2005
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aka Goodbye
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
The book value means absolutely diddly on the AWD 5-speeds. I used to get people calling me telling me what my DSM was worth based on book value, I hung up on one or two people that did that. $3500 for a clean 90 with 100K is not unreasonable at all. My buddy just sold a 95 GSX with 75K on it for $7500 cash, the same day he advertised it. Condition means much more than miles or book value.
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04-13-2005
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Br0k3N
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: need to decide to part or fix / sell. Help?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Blower
The book value means absolutely diddly on the AWD 5-speeds. I used to get people calling me telling me what my DSM was worth based on book value, I hung up on one or two people that did that. $3500 for a clean 90 with 100K is not unreasonable at all. My buddy just sold a 95 GSX with 75K on it for $7500 cash, the same day he advertised it. Condition means much more than miles or book value.
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thank you very much sir.
And carlos, I know what you mean. Half the car is already sold tho pending I decide to keep it or not. The tranny is already being sold for 500, it is perfect though.
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