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LOL @ some of the old posts in this thread. Running this shit was witchcraft back in 2004-2006!

Originally Posted by LightningGSX

Yeah, it needs to be ran at about a 10:1 A/F ratio.You'll need to swap any rubber seals that come in contact with it, over to Teflon or similar.It will corrode anything made from aluminum, so you may need to swap fuel lines, fuel rail, etc(I'm not sure what everything is made of yet).And finally E85 will conduct electricity(gas does not), so you'd need to shield/ground the fuel pump.The OEMs put a flame arrestor in the filler neck, which would probably be a good thing for us also.Its not as difficult as it sounds, I'll let people know once I figure everything out.

Oh yeah, you'll end up with about 20%-30% less fuel economy and the octane rating is between 95 and 105(depending on season and area, I keep meaning to stop by an E85 pump and check the octane rating around here)

Originally Posted by Kracka

Yeah, my family's farm went under, so the fuck what? Seriously, if you can't hack it in the business then you shouldn't be in it. Nobody in my family pissed and moaned; they realized their time was up, sold most of the equipment and most the land. And did I mention I am a fag? The few remaining fields we own are either being rented out or are on the idle-land revitilization program.

Don't talk about "cleaner burning" either, 90% of the cars on this board are emissions illegal.

About the price...I regularly paid the extra $.10/gal to get the nonoxygenated gasoline if the station I was at offered it and generally noted a slight increase in performance and always a few extra MPG.

Notice underlined part. WTF

Originally Posted by Kracka

No need for apologies my friend. Just so you know, gallon to gallon gasoline makes more power; that is why you see a reduction in fuel economy with E85 and the 10% stuff. I really don't care what you guys buy though, the less gasoline that is purchased the cheaper it will become for me. Aslong as we are all happy with the choices we make I see no problems what so ever.

Originally Posted by santa

Well, I was reading a bit on this thread and noticed everyone thinking its possible to run it in your dsm... good luck!! E85 is obviously 85%ethonol and 15%gas. Your vehical that you run it in has to be FF approved...Flexible Fuel. They run different line, pumps, injector's because of the ethonol content and what it does to standard fuel vehicals. Yes the octane is higher and blah blah blah but what no one stated that it burns a high amount of fermeldihide which is also a dangerous gas.

Kevin

Originally Posted by iceminion

Wait.....so are you running stock internal dsm fuel components and you are seeing no problems? I never believed that bs about it "corroding" aluminum....but you never know...

so are all DSMs just a A/F adjustment away from running e85?

Originally Posted by Gravy

And a time bomb for lines to just disapear on you.

It does eat up the DSM gas lines, but it takes some time. If you want, run the fuel, or about a 1/4 tank to find out. If it is bad you can always pump the tank and just run a little rough for a while. It won't mess up your O2 sensor, they had a few bad batches when it first started coming out that scared everyone away. They had too much water in it, and was fouling up O2 sensors even on vehicles equiped to run it.

So, it had to be ran at a 10:1 or richer AFR, it corroded aluminum, ate rubber, made less power, and Hughes was a fag. Oh how the times have changed