Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

So, I've got a problem. My turbo's making this "wonderful" noise. It sounds like tranny whine, aka much lower pitched than the usual turbo whine, and the volume is directly related to how far the turbo is spooled.

Now, as far as assumed related problems... Well, I can't spool the turbo anymore without spewing tons of oil smoke out of the tailpipe. I haven't taken apart anything yet, but I believe the turbo is the problem and needs replacement.

Now, as for the good, with the whole oil burning issue, I decided to take the plugs out to check them, and as long as they were out, do that compression test I'd never done on the car. Well, I think this: 199, 195, 194, 196 speaks for itself.

And for the ugly? Well, what do you guys think? New turbo, or worse?

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

Take the intake off the turbo inlet and check for shaft play.

Is the motor completely stock? Those numbers seem pretty high.

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

Assuming a stock engine, your gauge must read high, but its great they are all so close!

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

Yeah, I'm completely stock.

I've read that anywhere from 190-220 is healthy for a 4g63... I'm to assume that's wrong, then?

Anyway, I'm currently shopping under the assumption that it's T28 time.

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

Yep, sounds like the turbo is shot. T28 isn't a bad option, but isn't that big. If you don't have other supporting mods yet, then it is a good option. Do like Jake said and check the shaft play.

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Shaft goes wiggle wiggle wiggle.

Looks like I've got the base of my new desk lamp installed in my car...

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

time to find a cheap ass 14b

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

I was thinking a t28, actually. But with the lack of local availability I'm seeing, I may just grab a 14b.

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

I have a small 16G that could be for sale.

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

go 50trim

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I have no fuel mods, and have no real desire to start modding under the hood right now, so a 50-trim is out. I want something I can just bolt up and run at stock boost with the stock fuel system.

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Too bad, I just sold a mint 14b for $100, been for sale here for months.

Did you just say stock boost? (whispers to guy next to him: *he just said stock boost*)...............Enough of this jibba jabba! E316g, some 560's out of an evo and an AFC, and walbro you're set for 20psi of fun :D

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See, that's money that I not only don't have, but have no desire to spend. I want this to stay a reliable DD for as long as possible, and that won't be cheap if I start replacing everything.

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

I will give you my 14b for $30. It needs some O ring or gasket replaced in the compressor housing, otherwise no shaft play. And only minor cracks in the turbine housing, none go thru.

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I had a t28, bigger injectors, AFC, and a front mount for three years and didn't break a single thing, it was a great reliable DD. That will cost quite a bit more than just a t28 upgrade. But hey, if you're sticking with stock boost, why not just replace it with another t25 for uber cheap until you're ready to do supporting mods as well?

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

PM'd

For clarification, because I'm not sure if I've got this all straight: For both the 14b and 16g, I'd need a 1g manifold and O2 housing, and both would bolt onto the block and downpipe fine?

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

I'll sell you my small 16G and a set of 650cc FIC injectors for $250

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

No, keep your 2g mani and o2 housing. But you will need an install kit for the 16g or 14b because they have slight differences. Like you'll need a j pipe to bolt up to your stock lower IC pipe, different oil feed line I think, etc. They sell the install kit online, or it's not hard to find the individual parts yourself.

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Ill buy that on the 15th :D

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

I had a 16G that did that once... its either the turbine touching the heat shield or the compresser wheel hitting the the compesser housing, eventually something will wear in and it will stop.

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

Questions about a small 16g...

All I need for install on a 2g with a stock mani are the j-pipe, gaskets, and new oil line, right?

Also, for porting, with what, and how difficult is it? Will the turbo need to be ported to work?

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F***ing Amazing Deal!!!

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Dude, JUMP on that deal!

No, it doesn't need to be ported to work, but it'd probably help! :D

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

As in, things don't line up perfectly inside, or the airflow just blows with the 2g mani?

The question with the lining up perfectly would raise questions about gaskets, would it not?

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

As in don't spaz (LOL) about it, it'll line up just fine. If you port it you will get better airflow. If you don't, it's not a big deal (esp since you're running stock boost).

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1quick4 (Brian) is a stand-up guy and thats a great deal!

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See, I'm not the one flipping shit over all this, that'd be my dad, and he doesn't want me putting something that "doesn't fit" on the car.

I'd be happy with it, personally.

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It fits it fits it fits, do you want me to say it one more time?

I promise, it fits. The 16g uses a 7cm hotside, it bolts right up to your stock 2G manifold (get new gaskets btw!) and your stock o2 housing bolts right up to the turbine housing, and your exhaust follows suit.

The stock intake pipe fits right on the inlet.

The only snag, as previously discussed, is the oil line and the compressor outlet. It points up instead of down and to the side, and this is what a J pipe is for.

A simple google search reveals pics of this. Look at the pics here:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/arti...side-fmic.html

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../Pixers017.jpg

Except that blue coupler you're gonna wanna face it towards your SMIC.

Seriously, it'll work. If you run into any snags installing it, you have everyone on this board (more specifically everyone you sat at the table with last night!) at your disposal to work through any issues.

You want this (or something similar):
http://www.maperformance.com/forced-...it-2g-dsm.html

Or go this route and order the line separate:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-94...mZ380061574140

;)

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

I have a 14B-20G stainless oil feed line I'd throw in with it for an extra $10. (filter housing to turbo)

All you would need is a Jpipe

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

^^^ hell of a deal for all that, those lines are like $50 new. Buy this immediately, also I'm sure someone local has a jpipe, you can have this together by the end of the weekend.

I'll even offer up some help if you need it.

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

1QUICK4, you have a couple PMs

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

If anyone's got a j pipe they aren't using, let me know.

Also, gaskets. Where's the best place to buy new gaskets? Your generic auto parts store?

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Get the 7cm gasket at mitsu or any local shop that has them in stock.

I really like the felpro gasket from exhaust mani to head, they are thicker and compress unlike the thin metal ones. Don't know if they have one from the turbo to o2 housing, but I'd get another felpro if they make it. Those can be purchased at oreilly, probably around $20-$25 for both. They should also have the downpipe gasket.

Or ForcedPerformance sells the turbo gasket set for $30, has everything but the gasket to head. Even includes the oil gaskets and new copper crush washers for the water lines.

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Brookdale Mitsu.

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For the gaskets AND j pipe?

On a side note, I'll be camping this weekend, and therefore will be without a computer. I'll be back Sunday morning and plan to make an appearance to the MAP BBQ. Anyone with offers can reach me at 7632108509. I'd like to at least have everything I need and have the old turbo off by Sunday night, if I can help it.

Re: Is broke, and I need a new one, right?
 

Did you get that turbo bolted up yet?

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Install kit arrives tomorrow. Old one's off, though. I should have this all finished up by tomorrow night.

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Update!!!???!!!