Evo X?
 

Ok I just picked up the Sports Compact Car magazine for the New Evo X. Well it talked about the lancer however it did touch on the Evo X a little bit. I don't know.... The evo was built for the WRC. This new one isn't really. I considered the evo and subaru wrx to be rivals but now I don't see them being in the same class. What do other people think? or is this way to early to be saying this?

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The EVO has turned into more of a pavement scorcher, which is fine with me. The EVO hasn't been real competitive in WRC for a while. The smaller cars seem to do better. I think the Sti and the EVO are still in the same class though, they are still pretty similar.

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WRC is Citron's baby as of late, but in reality, WRC has been based more by brand can get which driver. The new EVO X to me is more in the luxury fun without the need to add a ton of mods to make it enjoyable. It's a very possible 2nd car for us as long as Jana likes the paddle shifting.

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I am looking at one becoming my DD, bye bye Lincoln! :D I will probably wait for the MR though, I hope they put the 2.4l in the MR.

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My issue is if Mitsu will allow test drives and shit on the cars without going though the buying process first. Either we will replace the Prisim with that or I could try and get a good deal on trading the MS6 in on it and have it be my daily. Then we would probably replace the Prisim with a newer Corolla.

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Even the Evo 8 and 9 have had little to do with their current WRC car.

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I read that article as well. I believe it said they DO plan on using it for WRC. I could be wrong here, but I am fairly certain thats what I read. Mitsu is trying to revive the Evo X as a rally car. Its been weeks since I read that article though...

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I think based on: open deck aluminum block, paddle shift gear box that who knows how much power it and the clutch can handle, the turbo is now in the back of the motor, so to me the car will be very basic bolt on car. I hope the car can be modified similar to dsm's now, but I doubt it. It should be a good DD but I do not know how much aftermarket will pop up.

~John

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Wow I didn't know if I was going to get ripped on putting this thread up.

It seems like the magazines right now are just ass kissing mitsubishi for redesigning it. But as it has been said, it is more for a DD now. I don't think they sold very many evos as they hoped. So then they made the evo X more for the public so that they could sell more. To me, it just seems that we are loosing many of the modern day muscle cars that are affordable. Evo has gone soft, no more supra, S3, RX-7, Skyline (which is comming out soon but it is going to turn soft as well so that it can sell to the public), MR2, Eclipse lost its AWD, camaro, firebird, Mustang is still there actually. The later 90s were a good generation of cars. These new cars have gone kind of soft.
However I can pick up all the used ones cheap:sasmokin:

They aren't using it for the WRC because mitsubishi is done giving money to the drivers. Subaru hasn't yet. They pay their drivers with lots of parts. If any team will compete with the evo X they would have to buy their own parts and that is if it will make a good rally car. They kept the engine to only 2.0L so that they could say that it didn't loose it rally heritage.
:angryfire:
I think they should look back on the s3 and they should have put a 6 cylinder twin turbo, or something really wild in it.

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Yup, sad but true. The Japanese supercars are dead, and the real (turbo) sport compacts are dying. Now that I can finally afford a brand new sports car, I find myself digging through whats left of the 90's sports cars, hoping to find something clean and unabused.

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Ah yeah, I just read that segment again and you guys are right....

"Though Mitsubishi isn't currently fielding a WRC team, it developed the EVO X to meet current FIA Group N homologation restrictions for many privateers around the world that continue to rally the Evo."

Also states the new Evo X is more Audi or Euro tuner than JDM style. Greeat, as soon as we get our USDM Evo they go and turn it into sauerkraut.

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Keep saving and get an exotic.

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If i had money i'd build a kit car, like an FFR Daytona or Cobra coupe. :)

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This is nonsense. Its an EVO, the aftermarket will be right there to support it. SRT-4's have the turbo in the back, Audi's are no treat to work on, etc. but they all have very strong aftermarket support. A 5 (or 6) speed manual transmission will be available and I'm sure it will be a better design than the current EVO tranny (better shifting, stronger, etc.). I am sure Mitsu is well aware of who their market is and what they want, they won't make the same mistake they made with the Eclipse (financially, they can't afford to).

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I agree with Chris on this one. Mitsu I hope knows what they are doing. Granted it looks like a softer car now. But the aftermarket will flood with stuff. Also granted the 7,8, and 9's all had parts before they came state side..., but I think the 10 will pick up quick. Faster then the 3s guys.

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The aftermarket support all depends how how much abuse the engine can take. The reason the 4g63 did so well is because they could take 400 hp on stock parts with very few upgrades. Thats why I fell in love with the motor. I don't know if this is because they over enginered the motor or what. This happens to be true with a lot of motors coming from the 90s. I don't think the designers knew how to build the motor, they over built it in case it failed.
Developing the motor is very different today then it was in the past. The manufactures want to cut as many corners as possible to save cost, so now they can build an engine to go to just 275 or 300 and have it very reliable, untill you try to overboost the car. The aftermarket justs depends what the new engine can handle. The RX-8 engine was supposed to be the supream rotory engine but that kind of failed when the turbo kits didn't do anything and the supercharger belt system wouldn't work with the cars pullies.

What they want to do is surpass the Evo 9. That is going to be stock to stock numbers. The X may outperform the Evo 9 however I am thinking if the 9 is modded, it is going to dominate the X.

The problem with the audience today is that everyone wants to buy something affordable that isn't going to break. Example is that toyota doesn't make the supra, mr2 anymore. Mazda did the same with the rotory engine, RX-8 isn't a popular tuner car but i definatly see a lot more RX-8 instead of RX-7s. Remember why mitsubishi changed the Eclipse platform, everyone was buying the GS and the GSXs weren't selling at all. I am wondering if mitsubishi is going the same route with the Evo, making cars for the people instead of racing.
Still too early to tell yet. I am kind of scared though.

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The aftermarket will be there, there are a lot of cars that share this series engine. There is also supposed to be a ton of room behind the engine for a big turbo (looking at the new base model). The car is getting some frills, but I don't think they are going too soft. Remember they are also coming out with a RalliArt version, this is going to be the hardcore version, it won't have all the gizmo's on it. I think Mitsu is going to do this right, we'll just have to see how the different versions come about.

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I hope you are all right, we will see.

~John

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Thats not a very accurate statement. The sales of the Eclipse GSX/GST were shattered by the sales of the newer (2000+) Eclipse. The new body style made Mitsubishi quite a bit of cash. I dont know where you heard the opposite, but its not true.

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The 2000+ Eclipse also lost them a lot of money because they gave them away to every stripper that came in for the 0 down, 0 interest, and 0 payments for a year deal and end up defaulting when it actually came time to start making payments.

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Well none-the-less, it was not the vehicle's performance/styling that was at fault for the financial issues.

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I'm with John on this one, I am not looking forward to that car at all. I mean open deck aluminum block? What is that? I've had to work on several cars with turbos in the back, its beyond me why anyone would want that. I dont like the styling that much either. One thing that drives me nuts about the 3g Eclipse is how the 2g doesnt show through at all. I think the newer version has to show a bit of its roots you know what I mean? Well, the X doesnt look like a IX to me at all. I also agree, I like old cars far more than newer ones (minus the Evo). I would take a late 80s-late 90s sports car over newer stuff any day.

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What I am really really really hoping for is that they will put all the cheap parts on its cheap lancer counter.
In dsm terms meaning the gs version or the stripped down version of the car. With the price tag, I am hoping that they will put all the quality parts then into the evo. However putting the turbo in the back? What does this accomplish? In the magazine it states so that all the weight will be centered more. I am all for new ideas, however we should ask the question why they put the turbo in the front of the car in the first place. I would have thought it would be cooler there with the fans and the radiator. I have opened the hood to only find a glowing turbo and exhaust manifold. Things get pretty hot there, especially if its a rally race and there is an anti lag or misfiring system on the car. GLOWING RED HOT!! Looking at the specs the new evo even weighs 200 pounds heavier. Every evo thats come out, it seems like more weight has been added. What is the point of trying to distribute the weight if you can't keep the weight off the car! Racers found out light weight is the key for everything, better gas milage, horse power per weight, handling, and parts don't break as often. Found that out the hard way with the heavy DSM car! Thats why I want an early evo (1-3) because they weigh less then our DSM cars!

I agree on the styling. Have you ever looked at the evo X and a dodge charger? It is quite sickening to compare the similarities.

What I am interested in though is the Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC) technology. Active Center Differential (ACD), Active Yaw Control (AYC) and Active Stability Control (ASC). They have already fited one system on a Evo 9 and already they said it is unbelievable. If this system is perfected, we could be looking at something more powerful then a skyline system. The great thing is that the S-AWC has already been adapted to a Evo 9 for testing purposes. I am hoping that later if the Evo X doesn't work out, the system could always be fitted to a earlier Evo. What a combo that would be!!! Light weight early evo (4g63) with a traction control system more sophisticated then a skyline ::drool::