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eclipse_spyder 09-09-2006 12:31 AM

2.4l???
 
ok so im still a noob about dsm's. what does it mean when the say its a 2.4 liter stroker??? did they just put in the crankshaft stroker kit in the 2.0 block? or did they change the block too?

iceminion 09-09-2006 03:18 AM

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using the 2.0 block you can put a "stroker" crank kit in it to achieve 2.3 or 2.4L displacement. this = $$$$$$.

But 9 times out of 10 they are talking about the 4g64. (same as g4cs)

The process involves finding a 91 hunday sonata, taking the motor.

Using only the block and the crank from the hunday, add all of the stuff from your 2.0 (head, water pump, oil squirters, oil pan, timing junk, etc...) to the 2.4.

TAADAAAAA!! you have a 2.4 monster motor. (you will also NEEEEEED new pistons)

Seems complicated, but its totally worth it, I shall have on sooner or later.

sleepydsm 09-09-2006 11:54 AM

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There are MANY cars you can find a 6bolt 4G64. I see one or two just sitting in junkyards all the time. As he said, most of the time when someone is talking about the "2.4L" they mean they have a 2.4L block from one of mnay non-turbo cars. Then you put in low compression pistons, and the DOHC turbo head bolts right on, as well as pretty much everything else. So, you basically "swap blocks" to get a .4L increase in displacement. And with our little 4 bangers, every little increase helps!

1ViciousGSX 09-09-2006 12:31 PM

Re: 2.4l???
 
Adds 50 hp & 70 lb/ft

96 Gsx Awd 09-09-2006 12:39 PM

Re: 2.4l???
 
You shoudeve researched about 2.4 litter swap in the search section of forums, but minion pretty much cleared it up for you.

eclipse_spyder 09-09-2006 09:48 PM

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thanks for the helpful info guys. now i want that block. if you guys know anyone with one for sale, lmk.

eclipse_spyder 09-09-2006 09:49 PM

Re: 2.4l???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 96 Gsx Awd
You shoudeve researched about 2.4 litter swap in the search section of forums, but minion pretty much cleared it up for you.

well i couldnt really find any info...but now i know

eclipse_spyder 09-09-2006 09:52 PM

Re: 2.4l???
 
"you will also NEEEEEED new pistons"

for this, will any of the aftermarket eclipse pistons fit in it like ross pistons or other brand?

eclipse_spyder 09-09-2006 10:27 PM

Re: 2.4l???
 
also is a 4g64 block only from spyder's? can you just put a 1g turbo head on it?

iceminion 09-10-2006 01:04 AM

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Spyders have a 7 bolt motor......people usually dont upgrade those. I am not saying it cannot be done, I am just suggesting that you go 6 bolt.

4g64 usually means 7 bolt.
g4cs usually means 6 bolt.

turboimports 09-10-2006 10:35 AM

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4G64 from the mini-vans.....Find the 6-bolt one.

eclipse_spyder 09-10-2006 08:07 PM

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which cars did the 4g64's come in....i did some researchs and they said the older galants and expo's has them. which one would be the best ones?

Jakey 09-10-2006 10:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eclipse_spyder
which cars did the 4g64's come in

Chevy Malibus, Dodge Rams, and John Deere 8530 tractors.

mike55112 09-14-2006 11:19 AM

Re: 2.4l???
 
I know that you can get a 4g64 block from pretty much any junk yard for cheap!

mike55112 09-14-2006 11:20 AM

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Or you can spend more money and get a fully built one!

Shane@DBPerformance 09-14-2006 11:44 AM

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Does your Eclipse Spyder have the 2.4l in it already or do you have a turbo motor? I kinda like the 7-bolt 2.4ls, especially with all the 6-bolt 2.4l crank failures.

niterydr 09-14-2006 11:51 AM

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The 6 bolt 46g4's are most commonly found in the 89-91 Hyundai Sonata's. There are a few other colt's, minivans, and other passanger cars that contained both the 6 and 7 bolt flavors.

Gravy 09-15-2006 12:43 AM

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but don't all 4g64's have the right block to do so? If so, i've got 3 of them in the local junk yards in the form of 6 bolt Mighty Max engines.

Also, for the 2.3 stroker, isn't it the 4g63 block with a different crank in it? Or was i reading something while drunk?

tim 09-15-2006 02:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravy
Correct me if i'm wrong, but don't all 4g64's have the right block to do so? If so, i've got 3 of them in the local junk yards in the form of 6 bolt Mighty Max engines.

Also, for the 2.3 stroker, isn't it the 4g63 block with a different crank in it? Or was i reading something while drunk?

2.3l is the 4G63 with a different crank, correct.

I thought Mighty Maxs used the Starquest engine though? Maybe I am wrong?

Goat Blower 09-15-2006 01:58 PM

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Only a few of the 2.4's out of various cars will bolt up to our trannies. That's why the Hyundai one is popular. I'm definitely a big fan, I love mine.

JET 09-15-2006 03:53 PM

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Steve is right, the Mighty Max is a wide block and will not bolt to your tranny.

Hoffer00 09-15-2006 04:43 PM

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Ok this is going to sound really noobish, but I was wondering if the 6 bolt fits on the 2g Trannys.

What is better the 6 bolt or 7 bolt 2.4.

And yes, I read the other threads.

JET 09-15-2006 06:02 PM

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6 bolts have been breaking cranks at massive HP levels, but 7 bolts tend to crank walk more. If you are going to be under 500 whp then go with a 6 bolt.

6 bolt will fit on a 2g tranny without much problem if it is the narrow block.

1ViciousGSX 09-15-2006 07:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tim
2.3l is the 4G63 with a different crank, correct?

A 2.3L is the 2.0L 4g63 block with the 2.4L crank.

Hoffer00 09-15-2006 07:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JET
6 bolts have been breaking cranks at massive HP levels, but 7 bolts tend to crank walk more. If you are going to be under 500 whp then go with a 6 bolt.

6 bolt will fit on a 2g tranny without much problem if it is the narrow block.

I am going to be pulling my tranny out this winter or in a few weeks. How would I tell if I have the narrow block or is this a matter of what I pick for the bottom block.

Hoffer00 09-15-2006 07:17 PM

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What would you recommend for over 500whp. A full race build.

JET 09-15-2006 11:19 PM

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You have a narrow block. You just need to find a matching size block. What HP are you looking for? Personally I would go with a 6 bolt no matter what, but a 7 bolt with a twin disk may work well too.

Gravy 09-15-2006 11:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX
A 2.3L is the 2.0L 4g63 block with the 2.4L crank.

So i could, technically, take the crank from a 4g64 Mighty Max(engine doesn't matter, just the crank) and drop it in the 4g63, with new pistons, rings, and a rebuild. Right?

I know the motor won't bolt up to our tranies, that's not what i'm worried about. But that the crank will fit right in.

I may be able to get my hands on a 2.4l engine in the near future, and the nice thing is... the guys parting it out and selling a 2.4 from the sonatas. A crank i know would work. But for the life of me, i'm not sure why he wants to take the 2.4 out of his diamante//galant and drop in a 2.4t SRT-4 motor....

Forgive any uber-newbish things said. i'm under the influance of alcohol and a temp of 101. Woot!:confused:

eclipse_spyder 09-16-2006 12:45 AM

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okay so ive found someone who could get me a 4G64 block. and ive researched a lot about them. things i found out are that there are 2 types of blocks for the 6 bolt. narrow and wide. also if you were to do the swap, you'll need to change the pistons cause of the c/a. for the head, you can bolt on a 2g or 1g head but you'll need the galant headgasket or whatever the block is off of. also you cant use the 4G63 cam gears. its gotta be galant cam gears or whatever the block is off of. the timing wont be right if you have the 4G63 camgears. well this is what ive learned so far, not sure if they are all correct. correct me if im wrong.

Pushit2.0 09-16-2006 11:55 AM

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I would say if you are going to build a motor, 2.4 block, 6bolt 2.4 crank(eagle sells a crank if you want over 500hp), eagle rods, wiseco pistons, ARP hardware threw-out, then have a well know shop build you a motor and put it in. Or go with a 2.0 but no one does that anymore.

~John

Gravy 09-16-2006 02:18 PM

Re: 2.4l???
 
So i missed the answer to my question, or it wasn't answered. Will a crank from ANY 2.4l 4g64 motor work? And after looking, the Mighty Max's in the junk yard here have 4g64 motors, and the SQ in the junkyard has a 5g64 motor? Can't remember, been too long since i looked at that car, but it is different.

Know a buddy on a different form has a 82 JDM conquest with a SOHC 4g63, or so he claims. But i think it's going to be a different motor.

Shane55113 09-16-2006 07:32 PM

Re: 2.4l???
 
Well you don't need a 2.4L to make tonz of power, isn't shep on the 2.0L?

Jakey 09-16-2006 07:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane55113
isn't shep on the 2.0L?

Correct.

Gravy 09-16-2006 09:29 PM

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Any really top 100 DSM people running the 2.4 or the 2.3? Ran by a list on one of the sites, wondering if they used a 2.0 or not.

1ViciousGSX 09-17-2006 08:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravy
Any really top 100 DSM people running the 2.4 or the 2.3? Ran by a list on one of the sites, wondering if they used a 2.0 or not.

Yes. AMS' 8 second 1000+awdhp EVOVIII is running a 2.3L, AMS has built a street EVOVIII for somebody here in FL with close to 900awdhp on a 2.3L, Marco (Magnus Motorsports) ran mid 9's on a 2.4L, Shane (ecoli) ran low 10's while shattering 4th gear on a 7-bolt 2.4L and there are others.


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