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eclipseGSX108 03-05-2006 12:55 PM
Update On Talon!
 
didn't know where to post this so if its the wrong section feel free to move it!

well friday Ross, Drew, and I went to go work on the talon's engine.. take a gander!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...0/Image007.jpg
:D
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...0/Image008.jpg
don't mind drews finger!! lol

Halon 03-05-2006 01:14 PM
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Yup, looks like an engine

scheides 03-05-2006 01:56 PM
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Cool, what all did you get taken care of? I see the timing stuff on, so I guess you're all finished up with the rebuild process? Did you end up doing a stock rebuild, or throw in some fun stuff? :)

Kracka 03-05-2006 02:00 PM
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Bling bling nugga.

eclipseGSX108 03-05-2006 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides
Cool, what all did you get taken care of? I see the timing stuff on, so I guess you're all finished up with the rebuild process? Did you end up doing a stock rebuild, or throw in some fun stuff? :)
well it was just a bare block so we got all of that done in about 7 hours. So yeah finished with the rebuilding process.. I guess you could say i threw in stuff. I had all my mods on last time on the old rebuild then 7 miles down the road it locked up on me so thats why i had to do this rebuild again

eclipseGSX108 03-05-2006 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by S2kracka
Bling bling nugga.
thats what i'm talking about~!!

Jakey 03-05-2006 04:19 PM
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Who built the first engine which locked up and why did it lock up?

eclipseGSX108 03-05-2006 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakey
Who built the first engine which locked up and why did it lock up?
I don't know the name of the engine shop that did it the first time but it locked up because they didn't use threadlock on anything when they assembled and the oil pickup tube came unbolted and no oil got to anything for 7 miles.

Take a gander
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...icture_025.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...icture_024.jpg

EclipseGST 03-05-2006 10:36 PM
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Ouch! Dont you have an oil pressure gauge? If I dont see oil pressure instantly at start up, I shut it down ASAP!

rst95eclipse 03-05-2006 10:39 PM
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Did the machine shop end up paying for the damages? Normally they warrantee their work.

eclipseGSX108 03-06-2006 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by EclipseGST
Ouch! Dont you have an oil pressure gauge? If I dont see oil pressure instantly at start up, I shut it down ASAP!
yep i have the stock one.. but its all cool.. soon to be done and this time WE assembled the motor

95tsiAWD 03-06-2006 02:00 AM
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where you driving when the bolt came loose?

eclipseGSX108 03-06-2006 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rst95eclipse
Did the machine shop end up paying for the damages? Normally they warrantee their work.
nope.. i had to pay for it.. they didn't warrentee so i guess that was my mistake in the first place.. Lesson lived and learned
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eclipseGSX108 03-06-2006 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 95tsiAWD
where you driving when the bolt came loose?
i have no idea when the bolt came loose.. it was in the engine so i couldn't tell when or not it came undone.

EclipseGST 03-06-2006 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eclipseGSX108
yep i have the stock one.. but its all cool.. soon to be done and this time WE assembled the motor
The stock one is worthless... You could have 5psi of oil pressure yet it still reads on the gauge and looks normal. I'd suggest getting an aftermarket one due to the fact that you already lost 1 motor to it.

Kracka 03-06-2006 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eclipseGSX108
nope.. i had to pay for it.. they didn't warrentee so i guess that was my mistake in the first place.. Lesson lived and learned
http://dsmstyle.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Damn man, why didn't you pursue that this further? If need be, unless I am totally missing something, you could have easily won in court. Did you at least report this to the BBB?

eclipseGSX108 03-06-2006 02:46 PM
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w
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Originally Posted by EclipseGST
The stock one is worthless... You could have 5psi of oil pressure yet it still reads on the gauge and looks normal. I'd suggest getting an aftermarket one due to the fact that you already lost 1 motor to it.
will do!

eclipseGSX108 03-08-2006 09:18 AM
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UPDATE!
Last night we dropped the motor in (sorry no pics:( ) and today we are wiring everything up and starting it up!!!!!! :D :D I'm so EXCITED! But scared so please wish me luck!!! :crosses fingers:

Halon 03-08-2006 04:27 PM
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goodluck. Hopefully you did better then me and my 7 valves of death!

eclipseGSX108 03-08-2006 04:40 PM
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grrrr.. already got bad news.. i'm not there so i don't know whats wrong but my buddy said to call my brother who is currently working on it because something is wrong and he has bad news GRRRhttp://dsmstyle.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif. I'll update ya when i can get ahold of him.. he is currently ignoring my calls

EDIT: haha.. sorry i finally got ahold of him and he was pulling my leg.. he started off by saying that they were driving it and when they got back they found the oil pickup tube on the table.. after i went crazy he told me he was just kidding so it is running as of now.. he is going to break it in for me since i don't trust myself enough not to boost it.

Halon 03-08-2006 05:29 PM
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Boost is the only way to break it in foo!!!

eclipseGSX108 03-08-2006 05:39 PM
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lol.. yeah 30 psi

Halon 03-08-2006 05:44 PM
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I'm serious, but I dunno about 30psi...

TurboDomestics 03-08-2006 06:01 PM
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Yeah, arent you supposed to boost it when breaking it in?

eclipseGSX108 03-08-2006 06:14 PM
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i have no idea... but i'd rather just take it easy on the first 500 miles. then after that i'll boost it a little for another 500. then once 1000 hits i'll change the oil and then have away with it

Halon 03-08-2006 06:19 PM
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I've always read the best way to break it in, is to break it in with some good solid pulls to get the rings sealed up right. The first few miles are the most important because the crosshatch pattern in the cylinders wears off quick, and that's what acts sort of as a "file" and files the rings so they seal nice and snug. And the reason you need to run it hard is so that there is more pressure in the cylinder, pushing the rings outwards toward the cylinder walls so they can be "filed" better.

I'm no expert builder, but this is what I've noticed is the general consensus as of late when it comes to breaking in freshly built engines. I'm sure someone else has more experience with me. But I know when I get my motor, it's gunna be broken in using that idea!

TurboDomestics 03-08-2006 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ju-on
I've always read the best way to break it in, is to break it in with some good solid pulls to get the rings sealed up right. The first few miles are the most important because the crosshatch pattern in the cylinders wears off quick, and that's what acts sort of as a "file" and files the rings so they seal nice and snug. And the reason you need to run it hard is so that there is more pressure in the cylinder, pushing the rings outwards toward the cylinder walls so they can be "filed" better.

Yeah, that what Ive heard too.

Also, I heard that you should change the oil before 1000 miles, more like 500 miles or so. But then again, these are just what ive heard or read about in various places, and I have never actually done this myself. Maybe one of the LSE guys will chime in. ;)

eclipseGSX108 03-09-2006 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDomestics
Yeah, that what Ive heard too.

Also, I heard that you should change the oil before 1000 miles, more like 500 miles or so. But then again, these are just what ive heard or read about in various places, and I have never actually done this myself. Maybe one of the LSE guys will chime in. ;)
Yeah thats what i meant on the oil.. sorry lol.. at the 500 tick i was going to change the oil then when 1000 hits change the oil.. then every 3000 after that... also this is what my brother told me he was going to do in the break in..

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgsx01
This is the way I do it (im ross)
I get it out on the highway and do 35-50mph pulls in 3rd gear 10times so the engine pulls vaccuum to seat the rings. then I do baby it around a coulple hundred miles but i do open it up. Now remeber alex your car has a 20g, 650cc injectors, hks 264/272 cams it really has to be tunes to really stomp on it or it will dump fuel and soak your cylinder walls and cause the rings not to seat good. Once I get 500miles on it, I change the oil and filter. Drive some more until about 1000miles total on the motor and change the oil one more time (after that 3000miles everytime) Keep in mind I do open it up but not straight dog the shit out of it just some 3rd gear pulls up to 80 or so.
That is what Ross(My brother) was telling me on another forum.. i was just wanting other people's oppinions on it..

As you can probably tell.. i'm not much of the mechanic, but my brother helps me out ALOT

eclipseGSX108 03-12-2006 04:52 PM
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She runs...:D so friggin sweet

Kracka 03-12-2006 05:09 PM
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Give it boost! No reason not to.

eclipseGSX108 03-12-2006 06:08 PM
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yeah but i'm afraid that something wrong is going to happen if i boost it to much.. its not tuned.. I don't have a palm, nor boost gauge. We havn't checked it for any boost leaks either.

eclipseGSX108 03-13-2006 04:28 PM
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So check it out.. supposivly my brother has had my car done for over 2 weeks..:D

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d7...cardone005.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d7...cardone002.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d7...cardone004.jpg

Its obviously in need of some cleaning!! will do that tonight!!! WOO HOOO!

joesushi 03-14-2006 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eclipseGSX108
they got back they found the oil pickup tube on the table..
lol, that would suck. What grade thread lock is used for the pick up tube? or for that matter engine assembly.


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