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C3L1CA 03-29-2013 03:06 PM

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Wow car is looking good! New mods look awesome.

dsmghost 04-03-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400 (Post 426836)
Those blue lcd's are pretty nice.

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Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 426837)
Wow car is looking good! New mods look awesome.

Thanks guys!

dsmghost 04-03-2013 05:19 PM

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Still waiting for a solution from Prosport about the faulty pressure sender.

Over the winter it has been fine, but since its gotten warmer the sunroof leaks. It leaks only under the high pressure spray in the car wash. I pulled out the sunroof, everything, and resealed the frame that holds the glass. Took it through the car wash today and no more leak!

dsmghost 05-01-2013 01:40 PM

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Getting tuned on the 15th. Switching to E85 so next time I need to, I'll fill it with "E85".

Link wise, what do I do to drive away from the e85 pump?
All I need to do is adjust for aprox 33% more fuel keeping fuel trims in check correct? What a/f ratios should I be looking for?

asshanson 05-01-2013 03:01 PM

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Yea, add 35% fuel, AFR should remain the same on the gas scale, so 14.7:1 cruise and 11.5:1 WOT for starters.
I would get the STFT and LTFT as close to 0 as possible before your tune.

dsmghost 05-02-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 429219)
Yea, add 35% fuel, AFR should remain the same on the gas scale, so 14.7:1 cruise and 11.5:1 WOT for starters.
I would get the STFT and LTFT as close to 0 as possible before your tune.

Ok cool thanks. Filled with ethanol today. Got it all sorted out. I didnt have to add that much yet since i'm running a mixture with gas still.

dsmghost 05-02-2013 09:50 PM

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Do it!! The only regret you'll have is wishing you'd have done it sooner

You were right! I seriously feel stupid for not switching a long time ago.

goodhart 05-03-2013 12:50 AM

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Told ya! Just wait till you get it tuned by Shane! You'll be blown away I promise :D

I wish I had that day off to come watch, but I'll have to come down and check it out afterwards or something.

evotuner 05-03-2013 01:05 AM

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And don't blow it up before you get tuned lol

asshanson 05-03-2013 02:58 AM

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Pretty tough to blow it up unless you are doing pulls. And who does that? Seems like you are asking for trouble.

I forgot to mention (and I hope you realized this already), but you don't add 35% in DSMlink to the global fuel compensation. You basically scale the injector down 35% and then input that setting for the injector. So for 1650cc you would have -72%, but on E85 they act like 1220cc which would be -63%. Hope that makes sense. Just watch your short and long term fuel trims and make them zero, that's all that matters.

dsmghost 05-03-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 429313)
Pretty tough to blow it up unless you are doing pulls. And who does that? Seems like you are asking for trouble.

I forgot to mention (and I hope you realized this already), but you don't add 35% in DSMlink to the global fuel compensation. You basically scale the injector down 35% and then input that setting for the injector. So for 1650cc you would have -72%, but on E85 they act like 1220cc which would be -63%. Hope that makes sense. Just watch your short and long term fuel trims and make them zero, that's all that matters.

Yeah, I got it. It's running very well. I'm monitoring everything very closely. And obviously, ill be making more adjustments next time I fill the tank since I'm still diluting out gasoline.

dsmghost 05-03-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 429304)
Told ya! Just wait till you get it tuned by Shane! You'll be blown away I promise :D

I wish I had that day off to come watch, but I'll have to come down and check it out afterwards or something.

Yeah, it will be a little different than last time with the 14b and 450s :drive:

dsmghost 05-06-2013 09:11 PM

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I filled it up with E85 again today, had the laptop with so I could adjust for the new mixture in the tank (still diluting gas out of tank). Everything was running fine until during a cruise my fuel trims start going crazy, my wideband was showing that it wasnt cutting fuel on decel. I pulled off and let it idle, something was definitely wrong. The car would barely idle, So I pulled the vacuum line of my AFPR, yup it was dumping fuel in the vacuum line. Threw on a stock regulator and its good to go.

I'm going to pull the AFPR apart tomorrow to see what's going on with the diaphragm. I'm wondering if the E85 has anything to do with the sudden failure of the regulator.

goodhart 05-07-2013 10:19 AM

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^The e85 won't wreck a regulator, especially that fast. Glad you got it figured out so quick. You don't want problems before a tune. Make sure to do a boost leak test and have NO leaks before your tune as well.

dsmghost 05-08-2013 03:08 PM

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So this morning I pulled the transmission so I could replace the output shaft seal. Its been leaking since day 1. I overlooked that seal when assembling the car, although I replaced both axle seals at the time. Over winter it was fine couple drips under the car, since its been warm the leak got much much worse. Glad I finally took care of that seal, while I was in there inspected the clutch, throw out bearing etc.. All was good.

Also, I ordered a mishimoto fan to aid the single flex a lite fan with cooling, it showed up today. Ill be installing that very soon. I've been running about 210*F cruising, is that normal or should I be looking to drop engine temps more?

dsmghost 05-15-2013 02:29 PM

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Well, 292hp/285tq, Shootout mode was 343hp/336tq.

Im happy, but did not hit the numbers I was hoping for.

:score005:

goodhart 05-15-2013 02:39 PM

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Looks like it needs some cams and more boost! How does it feel on the road compared to before?

dsmghost 05-15-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 430083)
Looks like it needs some cams and more boost! How does it feel on the road compared to before?

It is a lot smoother, better drivability. Spool up seems smooth and solid. He did a pull before any tuning, it hit 248 at around 24 psi I think. Seemed to lose power anything more than the 27psi it's set at now. Maybe Shane will chime in with more info.

dsmghost 05-15-2013 08:10 PM

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So I was expecting more power from this ef1. Suggestions?
How much gain could I expect from different cams?
How much power could my 255 and 1250cc injectors support?
My only boost leak is very minimal at the throttle body shaft seal. Going to be addressed very soon.

Aaron, Carl and Nick all ran low 11s at 120mph. What cams, injectors, boost were you guys running?

asshanson 05-15-2013 11:23 PM

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I would say the turbo is easily capable of 350-360 with good cams and an intake manifold. Your fuel system should support low to mid 400s.

turbotalon1g 05-15-2013 11:41 PM

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You should of bought my badass radiator and fan setup!!!

28psi with HKS 272s. I'd expect nothing less that 400whp, but to be honest even a solid 370-380.

Get some cams, they will make or break a car.

4seasons69 05-15-2013 11:45 PM

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I just skimmed through your thread. are you still on a stock exhaust manifold?? if so a cast fp would probably help some too

dsmghost 05-16-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 430126)
You should of bought my badass radiator and fan setup!!!

28psi with HKS 272s. I'd expect nothing less that 400whp, but to be honest even a solid 370-380.

Get some cams, they will make or break a car.

I had my eye on your fans, but I saw that you didn't want to split them from the radiator.
I was hoping for 400, I should have taken your fp manifold with the turbo. Ill plan on picking up some cams.

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Originally Posted by 4seasons69 (Post 430129)
I just skimmed through your thread. are you still on a stock exhaust manifold?? if so a cast fp would probably help some too

I have Carl's old 2g exhaust manifold, I'm 95% it's not ported at all.

dsmghost 05-18-2013 10:00 PM

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I got down to the last 5.8 gallons of the E76 I was tuned on earlier this week. I just filled the tank with 10.1 gallons from Holiday on hwy 100 and minnetonka blvd. When I got home, I used the tester I bought from DB it shows E80. So with the mix it may have been pretty close to E85 at that Holiday.

4seasons69 05-18-2013 10:36 PM

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Good to know! That will be the main station I use when my car is up and running again since it's the closest station to my work with e85

dsmghost 05-18-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 4seasons69 (Post 430305)
Good to know! Thanks will be the main station I use when my car is up and running again since it's the closest station to my work with e85

Where do you work? I work at Firestone on hwy 7. Is it youngsteds?

4seasons69 05-18-2013 11:07 PM

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Nice! And yeah I work at youngstedts.

dsmghost 05-19-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 4seasons69 (Post 430309)
Nice! And yeah I work at youngstedts.

Yeah my Mac guy told me there is someone who works at youngstedts with a talon too.

Alpha D 05-19-2013 06:46 PM

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Did you say you are right of 62 by the airport? Hmm we might not live to far apart. Im over by taft park bloomington exit...I thought i might ove seen your talon driving the other day but i dont remember. I know there is a red 1G that drives up and down ceder usually after 8 during the week.

4seasons69 05-19-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmghost (Post 430322)
Yeah my Mac guy told me there is someone who works at youngstedts with a talon too.

Yup that's me. Same mac guy lol

scheides 05-19-2013 10:17 PM

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Woot! I'm glad to see this car putting down some solid numbers again! Enjoy it!

dsmghost 05-22-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha D (Post 430332)
Did you say you are right of 62 by the airport? Hmm we might not live to far apart. Im over by taft park bloomington exit...I thought i might ove seen your talon driving the other day but i dont remember. I know there is a red 1G that drives up and down ceder usually after 8 during the week.

Yeah, swing by or hit me up if you need a hand or anything. I'd like to see your car sometime.

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Yup that's me. Same mac guy lol

Haha yeah he's pretty cool. So do you have to deal with Scott as your Snap-On guy?

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 430340)
Woot! I'm glad to see this car putting down some solid numbers again! Enjoy it!

I definitely enjoy it (most of the time)

4seasons69 05-23-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dsmghost (Post 430555)

Haha yeah he's pretty cool. So do you have to deal with Scott as your Snap-On guy?

Nope. Our Snap-On guy is Gary couch. He's good shit

dsmghost 07-12-2013 08:11 PM

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Ok so I'm having issues with the evo3 conversion/welded diff transmission. Mainly due to driving with a dragging clutch for the past 10 months. So I picked up a backup trans, a new 2600 pressure plate, new release fork/pivot ball, new oem TOB, and a new 6 puck sprung disc. Also picked up a fidanza flywheel and put a new friction surface on it.

I'm going to swap in the new clutch and backup trans then repair/upgrade my current transmission.

goodhart 07-13-2013 12:42 AM

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Damn. Nice.

dsmghost 08-02-2013 05:24 PM

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OK I was putting off changing out the clutch and transmission. Ive been daily driving with the 2nd gear pop-out and grinding 3rd gear. I drove to ham lake to drop off a Saturn cylinder head (other project in my garage), when I was arriving to my destination, the trans got stuck in 4th gear. Any other gear but 4th it would stall immediately.

Since at my house waiting for me was a fidanza flywheel, new pressure plate, new disc, new tob, new release fork, AND a back up trans/tcase, I said screw it and took off in 4th gear for the 40 mile trip back home at 3:30 in the afternoon, just as traffic was picking up in 4th gear only.

Last night after work I pulled the trans. This morning I changed the clutch and reinstalled the trans. With the lightweight flywheel, six puck disc, and without a welded diff/EvoIII parts it is definitely different to drive. Still got to break it in though. Now I'll have to start setting aside money to fix my main transmission.

mark4g63t 08-02-2013 05:43 PM

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I bet that was fun..Looks good. I love the way a new clutch disc looks.

goodhart 08-03-2013 01:12 PM

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Haha that's some fun drivin there!

dsmghost 08-03-2013 02:31 PM

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Haha that's some fun drivin there!

Yeah major clutch slippage required to take off in 4th gear, here are some pics of the flywheel, 2600 PP, ACT street disc after 1 year and only about 16k miles, and many launches, no lift to shifts etc.

dsmghost 08-03-2013 02:47 PM

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I also put on some new rubber, I went with the Bridgestone Potenza RE970AS. 225/45/17. Although I will most likely be putting on some Bridgestone Blizzaks come snow time, I wanted to stick with an all season tire for daily driving. Huge improvement from the Falken ZE912s that I had before.


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