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At-Least-It's-An-Evo 09-14-2004 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by niterydr+Sep 14 2004, 10:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (niterydr @ Sep 14 2004, 10:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-gixxer@Sep 14 2004, 02:45 AM
dsm's come stock with CAST aluminum pistons, as do most cars.&nbsp; we are talking about forged pistons genius.

can a 4.6 GT make 530whp on stock rods/pistons? with twice the cyls? i highly doubt it, those motors are pieces of shit unless they are the built ones in the cobras.&nbsp;

and since your car has sooo much aluminum in it, why does it weigh more than our heavy steel awd cars?


unless you drive an 03 cobra i'd shut the hell up, maybe you should go race tyler on pump gas again.&nbsp; or kevin for that matter.&nbsp; and dont forget to fill up your bottle of "fast"&nbsp; or god knows you won't be able to get out of your own way

not to stir the pot and get off topic, but I think his car is faster than yours.
And if im not mistaken, he has a 5.0, not the 4.6.
Anywho, I was mistaken on the rau 175mph traps, im not sure where I got that from, but whatever I was wrong. [/b][/quote]
Blah blah blah; and 3/S's are fast. :secret: :lol: :lol: :lol:






































jk.

Pushit2.0 09-14-2004 01:11 PM

He traps at 177ish but does not use eagle rods, he uses some aluminum rod, I think there grodons(sp) or some chevy aluminum rod.

~John

RedStal95 09-14-2004 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by gixxer@Sep 14 2004, 02:45 AM
dsm's come stock with CAST aluminum pistons, as do most cars.* we are talking about forged pistons genius.

can a 4.6 GT make 530whp on stock rods/pistons? with twice the cyls? i highly doubt it, those motors are pieces of shit unless they are the built ones in the cobras.**

and since your car has sooo much aluminum in it, why does it weigh more than our heavy steel awd cars?


unless you drive an 03 cobra i'd shut the hell up, maybe you should go race tyler on pump gas again.* or kevin for that matter.* and dont forget to fill up your bottle of "fast"* or god knows you won't be able to get out of your own way

Whoooaaaaaa take the stick outta your a$$, what did I do to you? And if you really believed me about all the aluminum stuff in my car you are quite the dumba$$. And no I do not have a 4.6. I also never said my car was fast.

:naughty:

Shane@DBPerformance 09-14-2004 04:49 PM

Mustangs use some shitty hypereutectic pistons that fail at the first sign of detonation.

Super Bleeder!! 09-14-2004 04:58 PM

you insulted me with your terrible taste

fievel 09-14-2004 10:16 PM

what the hell does this have to do with chris' dyno results?

FattyBoomBatty 09-14-2004 11:33 PM

i dunno, but my crank and rods are forged and nitride hardened stock. and now i have some radical hyperutectic pistons to compliment them! ;)

niterydr 09-15-2004 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by Conquests are better@Sep 14 2004, 09:33 PM
i dunno, but my crank and rods are forged and nitride hardened stock. and now i have some radical hyperutectic pistons to compliment them! ;)
all comes factory here.
forged crank, rods, and cast pistons.

1ViciousGSX 09-15-2004 01:09 PM

Let's try and keep this on topic :slap:

fievel 09-15-2004 07:32 PM

chris just got back from the dyno again, and they said hey buddy how come your car has no motor?

MustGoFaster 09-15-2004 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by fievel@Sep 15 2004, 05:32 PM
chris just got back from the dyno again, and they said hey buddy how come your car has no motor?
Maybe it:

fievel 09-15-2004 07:56 PM

it didnt walk, it ran.

Jakey 09-15-2004 07:59 PM

Has there been any sort of obvious reason show up as to why Chris' car walked?

Raptor 09-15-2004 08:35 PM

Actually, now that the string of longblocks is settling down a bit, I should be able to pull the rest of his apart tomorrow and find out if there is any indication. I am guessing there won't be since the cap didn't have any ability to shift or otherwise. Beyond that, or some obvious oiling issue, anything else would be speculation. I mainly just want to find no damage to the crank or block surfaces. It didn't walk as far as it seemed at first, the damage may be contained to just the bearing itself. Keep your fingers crossed. If all is good, higher load bearings, and a twin disk clutch should prevent it from going again. I found 1 place in the cities that will polish the thrust surface of a crank which we will also probably do. The machine to do that work is about 80K I have been told and this is the only one in the Midwest supposedly.

Jakey 09-15-2004 10:18 PM

How does running a twin disc clutch potentially reduce the risk of walking again?

Super Bleeder!! 09-15-2004 11:24 PM

as i understand it, they provide a lot of clamp, but not so much "thrust" against the crank/flywheel

MustGoFaster 09-15-2004 11:33 PM

Not quite. They use less clamp (stock or lighter pedal pressure) and more area. They have 2 disks (who would’a thunk it?), so they have double the friction area of a single disc clutch and thus can hold a lot of power with little force.

So some were around stock force on the thrust bearing VS. ACT 2900. Hmmm...

JustROLLIN 09-16-2004 12:42 AM

Mike, I know that Gopher will do polishing of cranks.

LightningGSX 09-16-2004 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by MustGoFaster@Sep 15 2004, 09:33 PM
Not quite. They use less clamp (stock or lighter pedal pressure) and more area. They have 2 disks (who would’a thunk it?), so they have double the friction area of a single disc clutch and thus can hold a lot of power with little force.

So some were around stock force on the thrust bearing VS. ACT 2900. Hmmm...

I think most of them use a considerably less than stock pressure plate.

niterydr 09-16-2004 01:39 AM

most of them are equal to or less than stock pressure plate force, the 'grab' is found from the greater surface area and different choice of material (almost like having 2 clutches, to hold 800hp, you only need 2 @400hp capible). Pretty much what ryan said.

Super Bleeder!! 09-16-2004 02:38 AM

i knew that, i was just making sure ryan did ;)

MustGoFaster 09-16-2004 07:37 AM

Spoken like a true engineer.

Raptor 09-16-2004 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by JustROLLIN@Sep 15 2004, 10:42 PM
Mike, I know that Gopher will do polishing of cranks.
Alot of places polish cranks, the thrust surface isn't so easy. But it is Gopher that can do it that I was talking about.

Jakey 09-16-2004 06:43 PM

Without doing any research, which manufacturers produce a twin disc setup?

JET 09-16-2004 06:55 PM

Most are very expensive. AMS sells one for a decent price, but they only make them when they get enough people on a list to make a batch. Let me know if you call them, I would very interested in one.

Raptor 09-16-2004 07:06 PM

I am guessing they would only make batches in specific configs 6 bolt or 7 and since the flywheel is part of it, that wouldn't probably help to go in with Chris on it. If you find out otherwise, let me know, maybe there are some of our other customers that might be up for it ORC also makes one that is pretty nice for a 7 bolt but very expensive like around 1800.

CDeutsch 09-16-2004 07:06 PM

Having a 7 bolt myself and just going threw this decision process...
Off the top of my head:

HKS (I just picked up a used one)
RPS
Tilton
South Bend Clutch (SBC) (would probably make one if you called them)

I also considered getting a stock pressure plate (or a custom lower pressure SBC PP) and having SBC make a feramic disk for it. But I found a used HKS Twin Plate with low miles (and that can be rebuilt for about the price of a new clutch and new Fidanza flywheel surface), so I figured I go with something that's a little more tested.

My biggest complaint about the HKS so far is that the hole in the center of the flywheel is way to big for an alighnment tool. It took two tries to get it right (before the tranny would bolt up) and now I found out that I may have to redo it and go threw all that pain again!

:fworld:

Super Bleeder!! 09-16-2004 07:51 PM

what about Exedy?

Shane@DBPerformance 09-17-2004 02:15 AM

I thought Exedy made one for the 7-bolts. I have an AMS twin disc on my 7-bolt.

JET 09-17-2004 09:39 AM

Exedy makes one and I believe redhead does too. The exedy is 7 bolt only and ~$1400.


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