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Tauni 02-05-2006 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
If you are going to drive the car in the winter a cheap Maaco paint job will not be ok. It will be chipped to shit within one year. If you are going to store the car in the winter then it wouldn't be a bad idea.
I don't know yet. My dad hasn't "decided" if he is going to let me keep the neon around once the eclipse is done. Though he should. I don't know. Seems kind of pointless to store my FWD hoop-d car during the winter. The onlything I want the neon for is for when the eclipse breaks.

BTW, John, I'm not that dumb. Between me and the other people working on this hoop-d I'm sure we could have figured it out :p

slowbubblecar 02-05-2006 09:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
If you are going to drive the car in the winter a cheap Maaco paint job will not be ok. It will be chipped to shit within one year. If you are going to store the car in the winter then it wouldn't be a bad idea.
A maco paint job is fine if you do the prepping yourself. They just don't spend as much time on the prepping than other places. I have seen some pretty good jobs from them actually.

Tauni 02-05-2006 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar
A maco paint job is fine if you do the prepping yourself. They just don't spend as much time on the prepping than other places. I have seen some pretty good jobs from them actually.
I plan on doing the prepping myself if someone will let me know exactly EVERYTHING that needs to be done. I'm still a little nervous about Maaco though, mainly because they are cheap. I know it sounds ridiculous but I compared their prices to a few other places and found they were a bit cheaper than other places. Cheap usually means not as good quality. Has anyone had their car painted at Maaco? If so how did they do and would you recommend them to someone else?

Goat Blower 02-05-2006 09:42 PM
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I don't know what joe off the street pays, but I pay about $350 for a basic full respray. My local Maaco charges the taxi companies $400 for a color change, but they don't do the door jambs or engine bay. I only say to pull the trim off yourself because their tapers suck and it takes longer to clean up the overspray than to just pull the trim and lights yourself. Plus they'll probably cut you a break if they have less taping to do. They are really slow right now, so bartering will get you a decent paint job for a good price.

Steve

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Originally Posted by GSTauni
SO true. How much is just thre spray? Does anyone have a clue on that one? And for the prep work what all needs to be done? I know the basics but I'd like to also do the prep work myself.

No body kits. I'm putting the side skirts back on and that's the closest to a body kit I'll ever have. :p

Goat Blower 02-05-2006 09:44 PM
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Tauni, shoot me a PM if you want an in-depth description of how to get your car ready for a decent cheapo paint job. I've only had to have them re-do one job because it was shitty. They don't do a show quality job, but either does the Mitsubishi factory.

Tauni 02-05-2006 09:48 PM
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Thanks a lot for the advice Steve! This is going to be a big help. I really would like this car to look nice and be decently quick when it's done. PM sent!

Halon 02-05-2006 09:54 PM
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Steve, could you post this up so I can see what you have to say as well? Or just forward me that same PM? thanks

slowbubblecar 02-05-2006 10:00 PM
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What should be done all depends on the condition of the car. I am too lazy to post.

Tauni 02-05-2006 10:03 PM
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He had good advice! Here's what he said, just in case!

Tauni 02-05-2006 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Okay, take off the headlights, taillights, mirrors,(unless you want them body color), trim strips above the doors, windshield washer nozzles and wipers including the rear wiper and nozzle, license plates and front bracket, door handles, trim strips between the glass and the door skin, and spoilers. Leave the spoiler pieces in the car for them to paint off the car as well as the door handles. This way you won't have tape lines on the spoilers and door handles, which is the biggest difference between a crappy paint job and a good one. Also have them repair the rust spots, or do it yourself with a rust neutralizer and some bondo. Make sure the rust is completely neutralized before doing the bodywork, or the rust will come back through. Also, if you have some shitty wheels to put on for the paint job, it wouldn't hurt just in case they don't cover them completely. Doing this should get you a pretty good paint job. They lay paint well, but the cost savings is in the lack of prep work they do. Doing this yourself saves you coin.
Sorry I hit post to soon!

x-pride 02-05-2006 10:40 PM
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maaco does okay job but any plastic trim being painted will flake over time...i.e. bumper....

Tauni 02-05-2006 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by x-pride
maaco does okay job but any plastic trim being painted will flake over time...i.e. bumper....
Hmm well what are some other good places you guys know about?

Pimpin Dsmstyle 04-03-2006 04:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
If you are going to drive the car in the winter a cheap Maaco paint job will not be ok. It will be chipped to shit within one year. If you are going to store the car in the winter then it wouldn't be a bad idea.
That's not entirely correct. Maaco doesnt use the best quality of paint or body work. HOWEVER, if someone knows what they are doing, you can completely prep / tape the car yourself and have them spray it. My dad had a friend that worked there a few years ago. The painters typically work there for YEARS AND YEARS. This brings quality paintmenship. Not to say you will get a great painter, but prep is where the chipping / bubbling comes from. Painting is pretty hard to mess up once you get into habbits.

The only way to fix rust is to REMOVE it. Neutralizer only works for a short period of time. If you want the rust gone, you need to chop it out and reweld. Even then you will likely have expossed metal on the opposite side.

Kracka 04-03-2006 04:29 AM
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Maaco higher-end paint jobs are actually pretty good, I've seen some nice work come out of those shops. The key is to NOT buy their $189 "Admiral" service or whatever they call it these days, pay to have the car prepped properly if you don't know what you are doing, and make sure to get multiple coats of clear sprayed on after the paint.

slowbubblecar 04-03-2006 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimpin Dsmstyle
That's not entirely correct. Maaco doesnt use the best quality of paint or body work. HOWEVER, if someone knows what they are doing, you can completely prep / tape the car yourself and have them spray it. My dad had a friend that worked there a few years ago. The painters typically work there for YEARS AND YEARS. This brings quality paintmenship. Not to say you will get a great painter, but prep is where the chipping / bubbling comes from. Painting is pretty hard to mess up once you get into habbits.

The only way to fix rust is to REMOVE it. Neutralizer only works for a short period of time. If you want the rust gone, you need to chop it out and reweld. Even then you will likely have expossed metal on the opposite side.
You pulled up an old thread. Also, sometimes ciutting out the rust and welding in a nother piece doesn't work out that well either. My friend brought his car to a shop to get rid of bubbling above the wheel well. It was cut out and a new piece put in. 6 months down the road, it was worse than before.

Kevin 1G Drummer 04-03-2006 12:32 PM
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The main reason maaco jobs are so cheap are because they use cheap quality paint. Also, there are some points to prepping your car that can't be done till it goes into the booth to be sprayed such as masking. Most of the time they just kind of "half-ass" the masking paper and tape on the car. A friend of mine had his Integra painted there and he had overspray all over his mirrors and windows. About 6 months after he had it painted, the clear started flaking off from around the window moldings. Personally, I would never bring my car to maaco to be painted.

LaunchHard 04-03-2006 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin_1G_Drummer
The main reason maaco jobs are so cheap are because they use cheap quality paint. Also, there are some points to prepping your car that can't be done till it goes into the booth to be sprayed such as masking. Most of the time they just kind of "half-ass" the masking paper and tape on the car. Personally, I would never bring my car to maaco to be painted.
I agree 100%, paint is one of those things, I belive, that you get what you pay for. If your paint job was cheap, it's gonna look cheap, if it was expensive you can definitly tell it was. It all depends on what you're trying to do, a maaco paint job is perfect for a car you're trying to fix and sell, but if you want it to look good, save up.


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