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SlowWhite 06-29-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ (Post 456541)
with this law, does it force a church to perform a marriage? My understand is that the paperwork through the state is the only thing impacted. Though I guess more doors open for people to be sued if they don't want to participate in gay wedding due to it simply being a gay wedding.

You can refuse business to someone for being a dick, but as soon as the dick says he's gay you can't. Weird.

Anyway, back to shoutbox. Sorry for thread jack.

There is already a law suit filed over a church refusing to host a gay marriage.

I want to add. What is this going to do for military churches?

I was the first non military family to be married at the camden military academy. And I was only allowed because the pastor was a friend of mine who was in the military and worked there, and my mothers significant other is a 35yr veteran.

SlowWhite 06-29-2015 11:24 PM

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Also when are they going to open the gates to Arlington cemetary?
Since Caitlyn is being called a hero im sure he'll want to be barrier next to jfk.

The way this country is going it'll happen

SlowWhite 06-29-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor (Post 456506)
That's a slippery slope argument.

Furthermore, its very easy to argue that people of X age and younger lack the capacity to make Y decision. There will always be exceptions to this, and some of our age limits here in America are set arbitrarily. But to a large degree, science (not subjective religious opinions) and set this straight.

Additionally, we can definitively show young kids who experience molestation, or other sexual experiences at a young age are much more likely to develop mental health problems. There is a clear negative effect there, unlike in the case of same-sex marriage (other wise now know as just marriage).

I might be mistaken but wasnt it not to long ago getting married under the age of 16 was legal? I know my wifes grand parents were married at 14 and are still happily married been over 55yrs married.

And I fully agree unwanted molestation has a life ling effect on a child.

jeremy1375 06-29-2015 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowWhite (Post 456555)
There is already a law suit filed over a church refusing to host a gay marriage.

Link?

SlowWhite 06-29-2015 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 456516)
Slippery slope, hardly. No you wont see pedophiles getting rights to marry, based on pedophilia being illegal, homosexuality is not illegal and therefore makes it ok to give rights to.
And who the hell cares about the definition of marriage? Does it really affect your marriage by redefining it? no, no it doesnt.

Being gay used to be illegal, and has neen reversed. Just like today years ago no one expected this.

How do we know what the future holds, at this point I for one, believe anything is possible now.

Hell if jerry lee Lewis can marry his 14yr old cousin in a time where that was strickly ground apon

What's going happen in based on the trend thats happening now?

SlowWhite 06-29-2015 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 456558)
Link?

http://conservativebyte.com/2015/06/...their-wedding/

I just did a quick search, didnt read this article.

The one I was referring to was just a post on Facebook where someone mentioned it happened already.

Again I haven't done any homework on it. Just skimmed over posts while I was on lunch break and quit frankly would take way to long to find it again.

Edit link above is for the UK:

SlowWhite 06-29-2015 11:55 PM

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-weddings.html

But here is ine close enough

SlowWhite 06-29-2015 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy1375 (Post 456547)
If enough of the population decides polygamy is for them, it'll eventually be made legal. Thus is the nature of a government for the people by the people...

By the way my mothers twin sister is a lesbian. And her son the one that hasn't worked in 15yrs (posted in the other thread) is poly.
he is married to a Canadian and has a live in girlfriend and they live in north carolina. And i already saw he just posted about cant wait till poly becomes legal.

polishmafia 06-30-2015 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 456531)
Pedophilia is a crime because it harms kids! You guys are not thinking clearly. Basically saying rape will be the next equal

They are thinking very clearly. Rape and pedophilia will be legal cause the unwilling kids and women will enjoy it! Cmon, think about it!

...

This thread changes many of my opinions about people on this site.

Anyhoo.. One thought of mine that has not changed, is that Alpha D is a retard. Does anyone understand anything this guy posts? Hes like a kid with ADHD having a seizure smashing his fists into his keyboard.

Trogdor 06-30-2015 02:16 AM

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Correct me if I'm wrong. The case that the court actually ruled on was that the case was Windsor v. The United States, not against a church or religion. Also, the to be specific, I believe the court ruled that legislation banning same sex marriage is unconstitutional. This is not exactly the same as explicitly declaring that same sex marriage is legal.

Given those two things, and the first amendment, I think this only applies at a government level. In other words I don't think a state can deny issuing a marriage licence, but a church could opt not to allow a couple to get married at their church.

Kracka 06-30-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor (Post 456567)
Given those two things, and the first amendment, I think this only applies at a government level. In other words I don't think a state can deny issuing a marriage licence, but a church could opt not to allow a couple to get married at their church.

We shall see...it's only going to get messier from here.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...ghts/29475501/

1ViciousGSX 06-30-2015 08:34 AM

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People were already suing, picketing, threatening bakers and churches before the ruling. It's only going to get worse from here.

1ViciousGSX 06-30-2015 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by polishmafia (Post 456566)
They are thinking very clearly. Rape and pedophilia will be legal cause the unwilling kids and women will enjoy it! Cmon, think about it!

...

This thread changes many of my opinions about people on this site.

You miss understand what's being said here. I seriously doubt anyone on this site is for pedophilia. We are only pointing out that it opens the door for those types of individuals to stake their claim to "equality". And it's already showing itself.

Kracka 06-30-2015 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX (Post 456571)
You miss understand what's being said here. I seriously doubt anyone on this site is for pedophilia.

Exactly. I know a guy who just got arrested for this (aggravated sexual assault of a child, improper relationship between an educator and a student, and federal child pornography charges) and I truly hope inmates give him what he has coming before his sentence is up (my guess is he dies in prison)...and that still won't be enough for what he did.

Kracka 06-30-2015 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by polishmafia (Post 456566)
This thread changes many of my opinions about people on this site.

It is much easier and quicker to make assumptions and pass judgement than it is to really think about what someone has said and where they're coming from on it.
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Originally Posted by polishmafia (Post 456566)
Anyhoo.. One thought of mine that has not changed, is that Alpha D is a retard. Does anyone understand anything this guy posts? Hes like a kid with ADHD having a seizure smashing his fists into his keyboard.

:lol:

A//// Guy 06-30-2015 09:44 AM

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If you think gay marriage opens pedophelia and rape to be normally acceptable and legal, im sorry but there is something wrong with you.

So done with that thought process. Big difference in making interracial marriage legal, giving rights to black people and women to make their own choices, as well as gays allowed to marry vs making sick and illegal items like rape allowable. Come on.

1ViciousGSX 06-30-2015 09:59 AM

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Who said anything about making rape legal?

A//// Guy 06-30-2015 10:03 AM

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Oh nevermind, only pedophelia is going to be legal soon, sorry about that. No words...

Kracka 06-30-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 456581)
Oh nevermind, only pedophelia is going to be legal soon, sorry about that. No words...

I'm sure they said the same thing in the 1950's about gay marriage and the civil rights movement ;)

The example is extreme and unlikely, I'll give you, but it does make a valid point.

A//// Guy 06-30-2015 10:40 AM

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You still dont seem to get it. Very different things.


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