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Shane@DBPerformance 08-14-2004 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Aug 14 2004, 12:32 AM
I believe Chris has a larger turbo than you Brian if I can remember right. You have a gt35 right?
Brian has a GT35 exhaust wheel. He pretty much has a non ball-bearing version of the GT35R.

Goat Blower 08-17-2004 02:26 AM

Eagle rods are a gamble on the big end. Measure to make sure.

The standard part number for the Wisecos doesn't fit the 1G Eagle rods. I had to send back the Wisecos for a different set with the larger pin bore to fit the Eagles. I don't know if I'll be buying the Eagles this next time.

Raptor 08-17-2004 02:10 PM

Out of the 10 or so motors for this year so far I have used Eagles on, not one of them have been off on either end when used with the Wiseco's. We had to have the small end pin fit to work with the Ross pistons on one motor, but that was actually expected. Every other one has been perfect.

Raptor 08-17-2004 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Goat Blower@Aug 17 2004, 12:26 AM
Eagle rods are a gamble on the big end. Measure to make sure.

The standard part number for the Wisecos doesn't fit the 1G Eagle rods. I had to send back the Wisecos for a different set with the larger pin bore to fit the Eagles. I don't know if I'll be buying the Eagles this next time.

Did you accidentally buy the rods for a 2g? The pin is bigger by 1MM.

SlowWhite 08-17-2004 02:36 PM

Just out of curiosity - what is the Max Hp that people are making with the Eagle/Wiseco combo? Has anyone pushed them to there limits?

AJ 08-17-2004 03:14 PM

Firgure the E/W combo should be good for 600-650. Maybe more? Since it's been proven 1G rods can hold 500.

Pushit2.0 08-17-2004 03:56 PM

I dont think a eagle rod has been broken in a dsm, but anything is possable. It seems to be just buy the crower or pauter rods becasue they cost more, but I think all 3 have the same tensle strength.

~John

Jakey 08-17-2004 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by GalantVR41062@Aug 17 2004, 02:56 PM
I dont think a eagle rod has been broken in a dsm, but anything is possable. It seems to be just buy the crower or pauter rods becasue they cost more, but I think all 3 have the same tensle strength.

~John

I have also been seeing excellent reviews of the Scat rods.

illz 08-17-2004 09:14 PM

who doesnt love scat??

Jakey 09-09-2004 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Raptor@Aug 17 2004, 01:10 PM
Out of the 10 or so motors for this year so far I have used Eagles on, not one of them have been off on either end when used with the Wiseco's. We had to have the small end pin fit to work with the Ross pistons on one motor, but that was actually expected. Every other one has been perfect.
Seeing some of the posts in a thread like this is why I was wondering about the Eagles.

niterydr 09-10-2004 04:12 PM

I screwed up on my post, im so sorry im not perfect.

Super Bleeder!! 09-10-2004 06:22 PM

this is an interesting thread!

what about thoes aluminum Groden rods? i remember buscher saying they aren't any better than any other rod and they are so big that they are almost impossible to fit inside a stroker.

anyone?

santa 09-10-2004 08:19 PM

yes grubtron....yes

niterydr 09-11-2004 01:39 AM

aluminum is a stong rod material, but they usually have to be larger than normal rods to be the same strength as steal counterparts. Buschur is correct, they won't fit in the strokers and the 2.4's I believe and are very tight in the 2.0's.
If anyone wants to check out an aluminum rod, I have one out of a nitro funny car in my tool box :).

Super Bleeder!! 09-11-2004 02:46 AM

you put a car part in your butt?? dude, thats not kosher!! ;)

Matt D. 09-11-2004 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by niterydr@Sep 10 2004, 11:39 PM
If anyone wants to check out an aluminum rod, I have one out of a nitro funny car in my tool box :).
Mmmm, beefy...

Raptor 09-11-2004 08:26 AM

I don't believe the Grodin rods require block clearnancing to fit in a 2.0. I do think they would be better suited to a 2.14 due to the weight and the larger bores, less stroke and better rod ratio. The biggest problem with aluminum rods is that they fail due to the inertial loads on them. The compressive and tensile loads are enough that they have a relatively short effective life span before they should be replaced. Titanium is better as is 4130 because they do not fatigue in the same way that the aluminum rods do. Aluminum is not a good solution for a street car unless you don't mind swapping your rods every season.

Super Bleeder!! 09-11-2004 02:39 PM

i LOVE SWAPPING RODS EVERY SEASON!!! GRODIN HERE I COME!!!!

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 09-11-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by gixxer@Sep 11 2004, 12:39 PM
i LOVE SWAPPING RODS EVERY SEASON!!! GRODIN HERE I COME!!!!
People expect these motors to last more than a season? :goodluck:

Shane@DBPerformance 09-12-2004 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by niterydr@Sep 10 2004, 03:12 PM
Eagles have proven to be a nice budget rod, nuff said, from rau's 175mph traps,
Rau doesn't run Eagles rods.

john 09-12-2004 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by . guest .+Sep 11 2004, 02:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (. guest . @ Sep 11 2004, 02:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-gixxer@Sep 11 2004, 12:39 PM
i LOVE SWAPPING RODS EVERY SEASON!!! GRODIN HERE I COME!!!!
People expect these motors to last more than a season? :goodluck: [/b][/quote]
Depends who built it and how much you spent. I wouldn't be pissed off if I spent $500 for the motor but I would if I spent $4000 on the block.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 09-12-2004 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84+Sep 12 2004, 10:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (92tsiawd84 @ Sep 12 2004, 10:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by . guest .@Sep 11 2004, 02:26 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-gixxer
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@Sep 11 2004, 12:39 PM
i LOVE SWAPPING RODS EVERY SEASON!!! GRODIN HERE I COME!!!!


People expect these motors to last more than a season? :goodluck:

Depends who built it and how much you spent. I wouldn't be pissed off if I spent $500 for the motor but I would if I spent $4000 on the block. [/b][/quote]
Doesn't matter who built it. If it's really a race motor and if you really race it, there's no getting around the rebuild. If you paid $4k for the rebuild, better start saving up or start learning how to do it yourself.

Raptor 09-12-2004 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by ecoli+Sep 12 2004, 07:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ecoli @ Sep 12 2004, 07:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-niterydr@Sep 10 2004, 03:12 PM
Eagles have proven to be a nice budget rod, nuff said, from rau's 175mph traps,
Rau doesn't run Eagles rods. [/b][/quote]
I wouldn't believe he was running eagles if you paid me. With his current setup, was't he saying he believed about 1160 to the wheels? Eagles are fine for budget rods, but I wouldn't try running them in anything over 650 or so. Beyond that, Crower, Pauter or I beamed Carillo's.

JET 09-12-2004 04:04 PM

Rau is running custom aluminum rods. They were for a Chevy 350, but he had the bores sized for a DSM. He did have to clearance the block on his 2.0.

john 09-12-2004 05:39 PM

Yeah, I believe Rau is running aluminum pistons and rods. He showed me the last time I was at his shop.

JET 09-12-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Sep 12 2004, 03:39 PM
Yeah, I believe Rau is running aluminum pistons and rods. He showed me the last time I was at his shop.
Aluminum pistons?!?! What??? That is MADNESS!!!!

Next you are going to tell me they are forged!! :stick:

slowbubblecar 09-12-2004 09:00 PM

Yup, alluminum. I thought i heard him say that also. He was bragging that they ended up lasting him a whole season.

Raptor 09-12-2004 09:27 PM

:uh:

Shane@DBPerformance 09-12-2004 11:28 PM

Hahaha.

Enes 09-12-2004 11:33 PM

fool me once.. shame on you... ..umm.. ahh..umm.. a fool can be fooled again..

Matt D. 09-13-2004 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by Enes@Sep 12 2004, 09:33 PM
fool me once.. shame on you... ..umm.. ahh..umm.. a fool can be fooled again..
That's why I'm not voting.

TalonFiero 09-13-2004 11:41 AM

hehe...aluminum pistons, what a crazy idea!

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 09-13-2004 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by TalonFiero@Sep 13 2004, 09:41 AM
hehe...aluminum pistons, what a crazy idea!
You mean Brent lied to them??? :secret: Oh nooooooo...... :ohmy:

RedStal95 09-14-2004 01:17 AM

I feel bad for you dsm guys having to pay for aluminum aftermarket pistons. Mustangs come with them stock, along with the stock aluminum axles and rear ends too.

Super Bleeder!! 09-14-2004 04:45 AM

dsm's come stock with CAST aluminum pistons, as do most cars. we are talking about forged pistons genius.

can a 4.6 GT make 530whp on stock rods/pistons? with twice the cyls? i highly doubt it, those motors are pieces of shit unless they are the built ones in the cobras.

and since your car has sooo much aluminum in it, why does it weigh more than our heavy steel awd cars?


unless you drive an 03 cobra i'd shut the hell up, maybe you should go race tyler on pump gas again. or kevin for that matter. and dont forget to fill up your bottle of "fast" or god knows you won't be able to get out of your own way

MustGoFaster 09-14-2004 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by gixxer@Sep 14 2004, 02:45 AM
dsm's come stock with CAST aluminum pistons, as do most cars. we are talking about forged pistons genius.

can a 4.6 GT make 530whp on stock rods/pistons? with twice the cyls? i highly doubt it, those motors are pieces of shit unless they are the built ones in the cobras.

and since your car has sooo much aluminum in it, why does it weigh more than our heavy steel awd cars?


unless you drive an 03 cobra i'd shut the hell up, maybe you should go race tyler on pump gas again. or kevin for that matter. and dont forget to fill up your bottle of "fast" or god knows you won't be able to get out of your own way

Well, aren't we friendly.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 09-14-2004 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by MustGoFaster+Sep 14 2004, 05:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MustGoFaster @ Sep 14 2004, 05:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-gixxer@Sep 14 2004, 02:45 AM
dsm's come stock with CAST aluminum pistons, as do most cars.&nbsp; we are talking about forged pistons genius.

can a 4.6 GT make 530whp on stock rods/pistons? with twice the cyls? i highly doubt it, those motors are pieces of shit unless they are the built ones in the cobras.&nbsp;

and since your car has sooo much aluminum in it, why does it weigh more than our heavy steel awd cars?


unless you drive an 03 cobra i'd shut the hell up, maybe you should go race tyler on pump gas again.&nbsp; or kevin for that matter.&nbsp; and dont forget to fill up your bottle of "fast"&nbsp; or god knows you won't be able to get out of your own way

Well, aren't we friendly. [/b][/quote]
Super friendly. :fworld:

Matt D. 09-14-2004 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by gixxer@Sep 14 2004, 02:45 AM
dsm's come stock with CAST aluminum pistons, as do most cars. we are talking about forged pistons genius.

can a 4.6 GT make 530whp on stock rods/pistons? with twice the cyls? i highly doubt it, those motors are pieces of shit unless they are the built ones in the cobras.

and since your car has sooo much aluminum in it, why does it weigh more than our heavy steel awd cars?


unless you drive an 03 cobra i'd shut the hell up, maybe you should go race tyler on pump gas again. or kevin for that matter. and dont forget to fill up your bottle of "fast" or god knows you won't be able to get out of your own way

http://www.mnsportcompacts.net/forum...lies/owned.gif

Enes 09-14-2004 12:11 PM

:3gears:

niterydr 09-14-2004 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gixxer@Sep 14 2004, 02:45 AM
dsm's come stock with CAST aluminum pistons, as do most cars. we are talking about forged pistons genius.

can a 4.6 GT make 530whp on stock rods/pistons? with twice the cyls? i highly doubt it, those motors are pieces of shit unless they are the built ones in the cobras.

and since your car has sooo much aluminum in it, why does it weigh more than our heavy steel awd cars?


unless you drive an 03 cobra i'd shut the hell up, maybe you should go race tyler on pump gas again. or kevin for that matter. and dont forget to fill up your bottle of "fast" or god knows you won't be able to get out of your own way

not to stir the pot and get off topic, but I think his car is faster than yours.
And if im not mistaken, he has a 5.0, not the 4.6.
Anywho, I was mistaken on the rau 175mph traps, im not sure where I got that from, but whatever I was wrong.


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