Pump Gas Turbos

[Iceman]

Alright so in time to come i'm going to be looking to get a new turbo. Now my feature car well almost always be running on 92 oct without ethnal or 93 with. Now which gas would be better? I personally think my car hauls more with 92 w/ out ethanal.

On the turbo idea im thinking of a 50trim seeing as dre put down 500 FWHP on a green with a 8cm2. I have yet to see a time slip from him but yeah. I have also seen a high 11 put down on a 56 trim i belive... or was it a 60-1 either way im open to suggestions.

I'm open to any turbos.... this would be more for 1/4 use than autox so lag isn't to much of a problem.

This would be for a 4g64.

[niterydr]

Got to get one bigger than john's don't you?
It really comes down to what you want to run on the street, the various wheel sizes have varying compressor effeciency's, also spool-up and overall power is drastically effected by exhaust housing a/r and wheel size. Also, if your building a street car, how much power do you want? and for how much rpm?
galantvr41062 ran a to4e 60 trim t3/t4 with .82 exhaust a/r. He put down around 420whp and ran 11.66@122mph on 93 octane in his galant this year.
Give a list of what you want, and lets come up with some answers.

[Iceman]

I want mid-high 11's on pumpgas and i want to be able to run that all day. No nitrous or anything like that. Its going to be a street car. I would like around 450 FWHP on pump. I would like to see full power around 7k RPM even though it doesn't matter. I'm not looking to spend a ass load of money on the turbo set-up but i would like to reach those goals. I'm not in compention with anyone here on whos faster. I could careless whos faster really.

I got a question about say a FP3065. I know its a bigger turbo and has a much bigger exh a/r than a reg 50trim. What i want to know is would i be able to get more HP from the FP3065 or the 50trim (or any other trubo not just the 50trim). I know that even a 2.4L wouldn't be able to make the 65 see full boost by 4k like the 50trim or whatever which i relise.

Want any more information or is this good josh?

BTW you guys still got that 4g64?

[niterydr]

Originally posted by Iceman@Dec 31 2003, 09:46 AM
I want mid-high 11's on pumpgas and i want to be able to run that all day. No nitrous or anything like that. Its going to be a street car. I would like around 450 FWHP on pump. I would like to see full power around 7k RPM even though it doesn't matter. I'm not looking to spend a ass load of money on the turbo set-up but i would like to reach those goals. I'm not in compention with anyone here on whos faster. I could careless whos faster really.

I got a question about say a FP3065. I know its a bigger turbo and has a much bigger exh a/r than a reg 50trim. What i want to know is would i be able to get more HP from the FP3065 or the 50trim (or any other trubo not just the 50trim). I know that even a 2.4L wouldn't be able to make the 65 see full boost by 4k like the 50trim or whatever which i relise.

Want any more information or is this good josh?

BTW you guys still got that 4g64?
let us know and we'll grab one for you from one of our local sources.
Stop by the shop sometime, we'll go over it :toast:
the key to massive power on pump gas is effeciency and size.

[Iceman]

I might be by later. I'll call before i come by.

[john]

Johns 11.66 was pump gas??? WOW. That is hauling ass. Any turbo that you are talking about 50 trim, 60-1, 56 trim are all capable of 11's. If I were you, I would get the 56 trim with a 2.4. Good luck on that 450 whp on pump though.

[Goat Blower]

Originally posted by niterydr+Dec 31 2003, 09:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (niterydr @ Dec 31 2003, 09:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Iceman@Dec 31 2003, 09:46 AM
I want mid-high 11's on pumpgas and i want to be able to run that all day.&nbsp; No nitrous or anything like that.&nbsp; Its going to be a street car.&nbsp; I would like around 450 FWHP on pump.&nbsp; I would like to see full power around 7k RPM even though it doesn't matter.&nbsp; I'm not looking to spend a ass load of money on the turbo set-up but i would like to reach those goals.&nbsp; I'm not in compention with anyone here on whos faster.&nbsp; I could careless whos faster really.

I got a question about say a FP3065.&nbsp; I know its a bigger turbo and has a much bigger exh a/r than a reg 50trim.&nbsp; What i want to know is would i be able to get more HP from the FP3065 or the 50trim (or any other trubo not just the 50trim).&nbsp; I know that even a 2.4L wouldn't be able to make the 65 see full boost by 4k like the 50trim or whatever which i relise.

Want any more information or is this good josh?

BTW you guys still got that 4g64?
let us know and we'll grab one for you from one of our local sources.
Stop by the shop sometime, we'll go over it :toast:
the key to massive power on pump gas is effeciency and size. [/b][/quote]
Don't be taking all the 2.4's from your "local source". ;) Leave me one, I might have to prep for something big in May.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Dre did not make 500whp on a Green. He has switched turbos once or twice since the Green. He is running a 50-trim though, but it is some secret spec. It seems like it must have a very free flowing/large exhaust side which would help make power on pump gas, but makes it spool about 500RPMs slower than his 50-trim Green did.

What turbo do you have now?

[Iceman]

Right now i have a little shit snail... (car is still for sale BTW) :)

Please don't say its to big of a jump for me.

[MustGoFaster]

Originally posted by Iceman@Dec 31 2003, 12:33 PM
Right now i have a little shit snail...&nbsp; (car is still for sale BTW) :)

Please don't say its to big of a jump for me.
It's too big of a jump dude! :bs:

You can do what ever the hell you want, do it once do it right! Just realize your car will be very different. Maybe me tolerance of performance mods it just too high, but the 3 or 4 days I drove John's Galant I was just fine and happy with not being able to get full boost till 7k in 1st gear, the car just whet and was almost breaking the kumho's loose so what does it matter? 2nd and 3rd had full boost by 4500, and I didn't mind. :3gears: Turbo lag = traction control! Oh well.