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JET
01-01-2004, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by EclipseTurbo@Jan 1 2004, 11:56 AM
Yea they have been around for a while but everyone is jumping at the same turbos at once....

The main reason people are jumping to 50 trims now is the price. PTE came out with their turbos and now you can get a 50 trim for less than a td06 20g. Why wouldn't you want to go to the 50 trim? It is a little bigger and more efficient. We have so much more available now than we used to, it is crazy. Back in the day the 16g was a decent upgrade because we had a 5 knob SAFC and maybe some 550's on the car.

The EVO B16g is probably the only mitsu turbo I would buy any more. DSM's are all about bang for the buck.

A//// Guy
01-01-2004, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by JET@Jan 1 2004, 03:51 PM
Back in the day the 16g was a decent upgrade because we had a 5 knob SAFC and maybe some 550's on the car.

The EVO B16g is probably the only mitsu turbo I would buy any more. DSM's are all about bang for the buck.
What does that mean? Back in the day is now for me... so ... yea... I just picked up some 550s...

eh i dont know, whatever.

PSI2HI
01-01-2004, 05:47 PM
IMO i wouldn't even think of wasting the $$ on a 16G. There is so little to be gained for the $$. For a few hundred more you might as well get a 50 trim or bigger and actually make some real power. Stock motor will take it all day long.

I'd be willing to put a 14b car against a 16g car anyday!!!!

Nick

PSI2HI
01-01-2004, 05:51 PM
If you want a good low boost pump gas turbo i'd go for a 60-1 for under 20 psi. @ 16 psi the 60-1 actually made about 13 more whp than my SCM61. 20 psi and up was a whole different game though.

Nick

A//// Guy
01-01-2004, 06:28 PM
Well its was cheaper for me at the time to get a 16g than to rebuild a 14b or een get a 14b in good shape... I had no knowledge about forums and I did not meet anyone that new anything about dsms when I rebuilt the engine... so I got a 16g...

Its basically a money game. I dont have money or the time right now to upgrade and such. If I did Id prolly upgrade to. I just find it awkward that alot of people on here in the last 2 months have decided this year Im getting a 50 trim.... or swapping a 2.4 in. Good for them, but everyone having the same setup is kinda oh snap.

Raptor
01-01-2004, 08:09 PM
Everyone doesn't have the same setup at all. There are a lot more 14b and 16G powered cars around at the moment, doesn't it work the same for them aren't they oh snap by your definition for having the same stuff?

This year is going to be sweet with all the cars capable of hitting 11s and some even 10s locally. I don't see it as a bad thing at all, it is progress and it will only get better.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo
01-01-2004, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Raptor@Jan 1 2004, 07:09 PM
Everyone doesn't have the same setup at all. There are a lot more 14b and 16G powered cars around at the moment, doesn't it work the same for them aren't they oh snap by your definition for having the same stuff?

This year is going to be sweet with all the cars capable of hitting 11s and some even 10s locally. I don't see it as a bad thing at all, it is progress and it will only get better.
That's the thing... Alot of people will have similar setups, but not all of them will be fast. I'm sure there's gonna be a bunch of FP3065/SCM61/AGP RS65/whatever you wanna call it turbo- on their cars, some with 2.0's and some with 2.4s. Looking on dsmtalk and on some other boards, theres alot of people with big turbos, but the times that they all range in are everywhere. Ex. There's a guy on dsmtalk w/ the works + a SCM61 runnin 12.4s at 111 mph. Now that's pathetic and I have a feeling some cars around here with owners that have too much extra money will end up being the same way. But there will be some fast ones for sure, and that's always a good thing. Anyhow, I forgot what my point was, but I'll edit when I remember.

A//// Guy
01-01-2004, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Raptor@Jan 1 2004, 07:09 PM
Everyone doesn't have the same setup at all. There are a lot more 14b and 16G powered cars around at the moment, doesn't it work the same for them aren't they oh snap by your definition for having the same stuff?

This year is going to be sweet with all the cars capable of hitting 11s and some even 10s locally. I don't see it as a bad thing at all, it is progress and it will only get better.
Stock stuff is fine (14b 16g) if you dont have anything to work with at the moment... I just think it was oh snap when one person decided to do a 2.4 and then 3 or 4 others wanted to build it up to. Its always the bigger the better around here and I think thats rediculous. same with the 50 trims.

The other thing is what quest said. The times people will pull off will be the differnce in what people are really doing. some will be slow some will be fast... I gaurantee that alot of them wont make it to the 10s or 11s only a couple. Ill keep my opinions quite though cuz this is way off topic I guess.

Slowness is ok though cuz Im among them :)

Im done with this for now.

JET
01-01-2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Raptor@Jan 1 2004, 07:09 PM
Everyone doesn't have the same setup at all. There are a lot more 14b and 16G powered cars around at the moment, doesn't it work the same for them aren't they oh snap by your definition for having the same stuff?

This year is going to be sweet with all the cars capable of hitting 11s and some even 10s locally. I don't see it as a bad thing at all, it is progress and it will only get better.
I totally agree Mike, it is going to be a really exciting year! A 50 trim really isn't that big of a turbo any more.

Peter, you want to carry on the 16g tradition. Maybe others want to start a 50 trim tradition? Is that a bad thing? Things are always going to progress, that is just the way it is.

A//// Guy
01-01-2004, 10:16 PM
Yea thats fine they can, Im sure ill upgrade sooner or later but not now... I dont want to make it a tradition or anything though.

Boy Im like the bad guy on this site, Ill just have to be quiter for a while.