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[Pushit2.0]

I would say with the same amount of money placed in ither vehical supra vs 3/s you could end up with similar results, two cars that are fast, handle and stop with there own style, and strengths. I would take a 3/s and build it right, which untill now no one has really tried all that hard to do. It is hard to make and market performance parts for the 3/s due to the customer base. Has a company we are trying to push the market to use a matching setup that will make and hold power. The winter is long and we will see what pops up in spring.

~John

[niterydr]

I am done with this thread, we'll see what happens this spring.

[FattyBoomBatty]

I am done with this thread, we'll see what happens this spring.

I predict a general warming trend through the mid-western states with high altitude pressure drops accross the board.

[JET]

I don't know, how useable are dsm's? They constantly break, why bother trying to make power? We aren't shredding gears in transmissions (like shane), we just bust transfer cases and are currently bitching on how completely stock motors don't hold 35psi with twin evo 16g's.
Real problems ;).
Billet transfer case housing, stronger non rusted output shaft, front diff upgrade for safety.
Put in a clutch, back to bulletproof drivetrain (within reason).I have stayed out of this for a long time. How do you know the 3S isn't going to be breaking more serious things when they actually make some power and can put it down? Matt J. is shredding t-cases at what, 550 whp? Who is to say gears won't start shredding at 600 whp once that weak link is gone? DSM's have proven it can be done. The 3S talk is that, just talk with nothing to back it up.

On the other hand, I really like 3S's, but they are not intended to be drag cars. They are a GT class car, and are very good at that. They have tall gears (bad for drag racing) and are heavy. This makes them easy to drive and stable at high speeds, exactly what they were intended to do. I like the looks of them and they are a higher class car than the DSM. That still doesn't make them a better drag car though, and they haven't proven that they can be. They do have the potential to be, but that potential has not been realized yet, and probably won't be as a 9 sec 3S on a stock drivetrain is probably not going to happen.

The Supra on the other hand has run 9 sec passes on the stock drivetrain and lower end. It is just built beefier. I am by no means a Supra fan either, I actually don't like the cars, but do respect them for what they do.

[niterydr]

Nevermind... I am glad I am not building a "no holds bar drag car".
We already have one of those, no point for a repeat.
I'll just have fun in my Jack of all trades GT class car next year, that is the goal.

[Pushit2.0]

I do not think a supra or a dsm were intended to be a drag car either, there are just more people throwing money into them so they seem like a drag car.

~John

[Kracka]

I do not think a supra or a dsm were intended to be a drag car either, there are just more people throwing money into them so they seem like a drag car.

~John

Agreed. Last I checked the Japaneese don't view drag-racing as a true form of racing.

[JET]

I do not think a supra or a dsm were intended to be a drag car either, there are just more people throwing money into them so they seem like a drag car.

~John
They weren't intended for it, but they work better for it. Have DSM's made a 9 sec pass on a stock drivetrain? Yep. Has a Supra? Yep. Has a 3/S? One is within 1/2 sec., which is still a long ways off and is breaking stuff. I just don't see how some people are saying the 3/S is so great, when it is not proven at all. Once it gets there, fine, but until it has, it is purely speculation.

I know Swanny has taken this pretty personal, but you shouldn't. It is not aimed at you. I just don't think a car with a questionable drivetrain should be given accollades without proving itself first.

[Kracka]

JET, you also must realize that not all of us are claiming what a great drag machine it is. There are a lot of car enthusiasts who do not care about drag-racing and who are more into circuit racing or even just having fun on the streets.

[JET]

On the other hand, I really like 3S's, but they are not intended to be drag cars. They are a GT class car, and are very good at that.
Kinda like that? This thread was about drag #'s though and the 3/S doesn't have the number to back it up (yet?).