swanny's sig

[Kracka]

Kinda like that?

Exactly ;)

[MustGoFaster]

Well it seems to me that the 3S was the fat kid that got picked last, as far as modding. I mean, it's just finally becoming more common for people to have non TD04 based turbos. Even then there are still 25 page threads about how badass this one guy’s car is going to be, cause he’s “Going TD05“. Just for comparison, I can take a 9b compressor wheel and drop it down the inlet to my 16G's. As far as the drive train, how many 10/9 second passes can a stock DSM drive train take? 5 speed 3S's can take a few mid/high 10's. With a simple brace on a new t-case Mark W. has over 30 hard launches with no failure. He is also using a 300M output shaft cause he’s got the weak version transmission (the output shaft is what makes it the weak version). Not as good, cause he acutely had to do something like drill holes in metal , weld it together and bolt it on the outside of his t-case. It may be just a matter of time before he breaks that, but it's a few straps of mild steel welded together and bolted on. Is the drive train really THAT suspect? Matt’s car does kill t-case’s, but it’s a 6 speed. So I guess both versions of the 3S transmission has it’s weak point on the outside so far.

And Chris is does have a point (and I see you agree), I am building my car with road courses in mind, that’s why I only went with 16G’s. If I have drive train problems that I can’t take care of, I guess I was wrong. But I think the main argument he is over drag racing.

[niterydr]

They weren't intended for it, but they work better for it. Have DSM's made a 9 sec pass on a stock drivetrain? Yep. Has a Supra? Yep. Has a 3/S? One is within 1/2 sec., which is still a long ways off and is breaking stuff. I just don't see how some people are saying the 3/S is so great, when it is not proven at all. Once it gets there, fine, but until it has, it is purely speculation.

I know Swanny has taken this pretty personal, but you shouldn't. It is not aimed at you. I just don't think a car with a questionable drivetrain should be given accollades without proving itself first.

Its not speculation, and I am not taking it personal.
I just get tired of people chiming in over stuff they have no clue about. The supra's puke drivetrain, the DSM's puke drivetrain, and the 3/S puke drivetrain. That's given. I just don't understand how some people feel they are more "plugged in" to a community that I am active in? I am pretty damn sure I know all the cronic problems of the 3/S AND the DSM platform. All I am saying, is lets give a little respect where a little respect is due.
And honestly, the supra is a great platform to start with. It has a very strong engine, it has a great drivetrain setup for drag, and it is very popular. However, the supra was made as a HANDLING CAR. Otherwise I am pretty damn sure it wouldn't have IRS.
So now people ask, what is the point of your car swanny?
The point of my bloated pig is to have fun. Go to a audio competition and have fun, go to a car show, win a dyno contest, destroy some noob on the highway, own some people at the track, it doesn't matter, I am trying to build a well rounded, properly setup vehicle. I will not sacrifice comfort for speed, I will sacrifice it for safety, but not speed. I will not sacrifice weight for comfort, it can be as heavy as it needs, that is what alternative materials are used for. This thread was about my signature about supra's, members on here decided to drag me into it. The reason it is "personal" because it turned into a Supra vs. 3/S thing. The ONLY reason it turned into a Supra vs. 3/S debate is because I have a 3/S. If I would have owned a metro, it would be Supra vs. Metro, and that is what makes it personal.
And as far as the members on this board are concerned, it will be within the top 10% as far as drag racing numbers.
Finally about my sig, it is what something "American" car companies would build.
The supra is far from nimble, in factory form it DOESN'T have enough power, and is extremely overpriced for what it does. Its why the corvette continued to sell without improving in the mid 90's and the japanese supra-cars failed.
What's funny is after selling and driving Hummer's, they do fit in the same category. That is why I love the quote.
I have no clue about the popcorn fart thing, but it makes me :).

[Super Bleeder!!]

I am done with this thread

you suck at being done ;)

[niterydr]

you suck at being done ;)
Yup. I just stay in it ;).

[Shotgun!]

I fucking hate 3/Ss!

They are so dumb and heavy.
Their gears are too long for drag racing.

[Shotgun!]

Swanny is a dumb head.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Rotary RX7s own all!

[Kracka]

Rotary RX7s own all!

For 90k miles ;)

[At-Least-It's-An-Evo]

For 90k miles ;)


You meanyou're lucky to get 60k stock, 2k modd'd.