Help me catergorize a Galant VR4

[curt_gendron]

Hey guys,

This may be a stupid thing to ask, but I need some help. Most of you know I advertise the All Mitsu Cookout in a lot of different places. One of those places is the Wisconsin DSM Yahoo Groups mailing list. Well, someone on that list is complaining to me that I shouldn't have the Galant VR4 lumped into the 1g DSM class because the Galant VR4 is not a DSM. Of course his manorisims are not so refinded as most, so this was his actual e-mail:
no one gives a fuck, especially if you have gvr4's grouped with dsm's. no vr-4's in wi will attend because of that b.s. get your shit straight.

I'm pretty sure that most people accept the 91-92 Galant VR4 as a DSM, since it shares most of its parts with Eclipse, Talon, Lasers of that era. But I want to hear your opinions on it. Plus, if you want to add any colorful comments for my new Wisconsin friend, I'll make sure he sees this thread. :) You can call him Acunda.

Thanks,
Curt

[JET]

Tell your buddy Acunda to check out the Talon Digest. The website/list that started it all! They consider the GVR4 to be a DSM. I would say it definately is a DSM. Too many things are shared to not consider it one.

[Alpine TSi]

If you were to make a specific group for GVR4's you would only have approx 5. I think it makes sense to lump them in just for awards purposes. Would I like to have my GVR4 in a seperate group? Yeah, cause then it makes me more likely to win a trophy, I think that's what this guy is complaining about. But does it make sense to have a seperate category for less than ten cars? No.

BTW the guys on galantvr4.org get quite offended when you call it a DSM, GVR4s were made in Japan by MMC not in Illinois by Chrysler/Mitsu. Not that it matters to me.

[Matt D.]

I think they deserve their own group, regardless of how many show up. They are completely different cars, DSM or not. You don't group 1G and 2G cars together, do you?

[Pimpin Dsmstyle]

It has the same engine and same turbo and is a mitsu. If you ask me its a dsm. Tell that fucking WI loser to RESPECT you for even running this show. He does not have to attend if he does not like how you have it set up. This is "curts" show and I think most of us will respect whatever you decide. If you could get an alright number of gvr4s, a seperate group would be cool because they do look different and all. But the question is, how many can you get!?

[curt_gendron]

BTW the guys on galantvr4.org get quite offended when you call it a DSM, GVR4s were made in Japan by MMC not in Illinois by Chrysler/Mitsu. Not that it matters to me.

I think most people who are up on there knowledge know that the original meaning of DSM is Diamond Star Motors. In other words the joint venture between Mitsu and Chrysler. But those same people in the know generally agree that the term "DSM" has emerged to mean these certain cars that share most of there mechanical parts. (Eclipse/Talon/Laser/GVR4) Otherwise a 99 Eclipse GSX techniclly isn't a DSM, because the joint venture was over in 1995, and after that Mitsu owned the plant in Illinois.

The most interesting question I have, is if Galant VR4s aren't DSMs, then why are they on every DSM messageboard and mailing list out there??? ;) We all know that they are made in Japan, but common, they share so many parts.

Any other thoughts on the subject??

Thanks,
Curt

[curt_gendron]

It has the same engine and same turbo and is a mitsu. If you ask me its a dsm. Tell that fucking WI loser to RESPECT you for even running this show. He does not have to attend if he does not like how you have it set up. This is "curts" show and I think most of us will respect whatever you decide. If you could get an alright number of gvr4s, a seperate group would be cool because they do look different and all. But the question is, how many can you get!?

Thanks, I appreciate that. And if I could get more than five GVR4s to attend, I would give them there own class. But I've never had a year with more than one attending. Some years we've had zero. :(

later,
Curt

[JustROLLIN]

I agree with Matt on this one. If you are going to have a handful or more of GVR4s show up, I would put them in their own category. Just my opinion.

[DSMPARTSGURU]

HEY CURT... just my .02


put them in other with starion's and such


cc

[niterydr]

Chris is right, if they aren't a dsm, aren't a 3s, then they are a 'other' until more attend.