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curt_gendron
07-05-2005, 11:43 AM
This is kind of interesting reading how people interpute the term "DSM". Obviously the term came from Diamond Star Motors, but I don't think of a DSM as coming from the plant in Illionios during the 90-94 time period.

In my mind, and many others, including Buschur and the original Talon digest, a DSM is a 90-99 Eclipse/Talon/Laser and the 91-92 Galant VR4s. Why these cars? Because they share so many mechanical parts. Outside of the 95-99 Eclipse/Talon non-turbos, they all used the 4g63 powerplant. A Galant VR4 shares at least 90% of its mechanical parts as its 1g Eclipse AWD brothers.

3/Ss, Avengers, Starions... I've heard these cars lumped into the term DSM, but they share way less than 50% of the mechanical parts and should never be considered DSMs.

As far as what category the Galant VR4 is in concerning the Cookout. Its gonna remain in the 1g DSM category, unless the GVR4 owner requests to be in the "other" category. I'm pretty sure the goof ball that e-mailed me was never planning on coming to the Cookout anyway, so don't worry about that head case.

later,
Curt

1slowdsm
07-05-2005, 10:19 PM
Hey, I think I should get my own category. I dont think I should be in the same category as the red/blue/teal/maroon/and so on 1G DSMs. My car is Forest Green, so I think I should get my own 1G Forest Green DSM category. Splitting up DSMs even more will make things easier for the rest of us, dont you all agree?




NOT! Hahaha...I like making fun of guys who are like that, dont you guys? But seriously, I want that 1G Forest Green DSM category...:D.(j/k)

curt_gendron
08-12-2005, 12:03 PM
Sorry to drudge up an old thread, but... I just sent out and e-mail to the MN and WI DSM mailing lists. I got an e-mail back from my old friend:


From: "" <acunda@gmail.com>
To: cgendron@mail.com
CC:
Subject: VR4 CLASSIFICATION
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:34:06 -0500

DID YOU FIX THE VR4 CLASSIFICATION YET ?


This kid is seriously off his meds....

niterydr
08-12-2005, 12:14 PM
Haha!!

StealthGST
08-12-2005, 01:11 PM
That kid needs to drink a big glass of "shut the hell up."

Pushit2.0
08-12-2005, 01:25 PM
Gvr4s are the pre DSM but share enough of the stuff to be called a "DSM" for a simple all mitsu cookout...

~John

scheides
08-12-2005, 02:09 PM
From: cgendron@mail.com
To: "" <acunda@gmail.com>
CC:
Subject: VR4 CLASSIFICATION
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:34:06 -0500

DID YOU FIX YOUR CAPS LOCK YET!?!?!?!?!


:) Maybe just give them their own catigory. The kid will be the one GVR-4 to show up and win the prizes for 'Cleanest GVR4' 'Crappiest GVR4' and 'Fastest GVR4'

er.....whuteva.

SlowWhite
08-12-2005, 02:14 PM
Well if the car came with a "DSM" Tag in the engine bay then it's a DSM.

However I tend to include any car that "Stock" came with majority DSM parts are included. Hense why VR4's are part of the family.

My 2G I believe now has the motor out of a White VR4...

Kracka
08-12-2005, 02:38 PM
I'd simply email the kid back stating he and his friends are not welcome for the event, and will be escorted off the property upon arrival.