Bastard 20G?

[howslowcanyougo]

98 Tsi, AWD, Auto, 650 Injectors, 255 FP, dsmlink, Apexi N1 Exhaust, Injen Intake, EI FMIC.

What do you all think of this interesting hybrid turbo on the above car <my present system?>


http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=1977&

Looks like it could be a nice and easy to install power upgrade with that 20G comp wheel and TDO6H Exhaust side?

This would be a much simpler direct swap with my present bad Big 16 with all the oil, water, return and outlet fittings being exactly the same?

What's your 2 cents?

TIA......

[john]

That is a pretty small 20g... It is like the one Jim (talon Fiero) had. I would definitly upgrade to the tdo6 exhaust housing if you decided on getting it. That would bring the price to $1000 where IMO you would be better off getting a buschur 20g. Being an auto, you may want to opt for the port job to help increase spool and as you are going to be running an external wastegate, you may want to research the turbo more and see if you should get it clipped to help prevent boost creep.

I believe there is a company who will upgrade your turbo to the same setup which would probly be cheaper. I would check with FP or extreme.

[white 2g awd]

I believe there is a company who will upgrade your turbo to the same setup which would probly be cheaper. I would check with FP or extreme.
it is fp, forcedperformance.com, its only like 375 i think, it sounds like a hell of a deal to me, and forced performance has some awesome turbos, so they have to know what they are doing.

ps ok, wait, they upgrade to the 18g.....here is the webpage, but i would still definatley think about it http://linux.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=NTDSM18G5HwoTH&Category_Code=DSM

[Jakey]

Well if I'm remembering the specs on the FP Sleeper 16G correctly, we can compliment Slowboy on copying the FP Sleeper 16G: http://linux.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=NTDSMFPSleeper16G&Category_Code=DSM-Turbo

[howslowcanyougo]

I'm now also looking at this PTE Turbo as well:

http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=2190&

I know I'd need a new 3" intake, and Extreme Intercoolers will let me swap the outlet LICP pipe to fit a this turbo as well.

My question is what kind of changes would I need to make for the water and oil lines from my big 16 to install this new PTE SCM-5031E model?

Or is this SCM-5031E going to just be way to laggy on my Auto?

Should I stick to the smaller Bastard 20G for faster spool up, but less power?

Just looking for the right fit for my setup?


TIA.....

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Get a higher stall and lag won't be a problem, at least from a roll. Maybe some nitrous if lag is a problem from a stop. :)

[howslowcanyougo]

Get a higher stall and lag won't be a problem, at least from a roll. Maybe some nitrous if lag is a problem from a stop. :)

So Shane, you'd then go with this SCM-5031E, vs. a mitsu 20G, or this SBR bastard 20G overall?

Tranny, NO2 are going to have to happen next year, IF I want to continue to stay married!

For now just need the right size snail?

Many Thanks.....

[EclipseGST]

Well if I'm remembering the specs on the FP Sleeper 16G correctly, we can compliment Slowboy on copying the FP Sleeper 16G: http://linux.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=NTDSMFPSleeper16G&Category_Code=DSM-Turbo

That is such a waste of money for "around 400whp". The Evo III 16g at half the price is good for almost that and has done 400whp in one car. If your going to spend that much why not get a AGP RS49T or a RS60T. Then when you do your tranny work and possibly get nitrous and you will be set. A 20g would probably be your best bet but if you want a new turbo, its going to be easier and cheaper to find a 50 trim. Just my $.02 on this topic.

[slowbubblecar]

If you go with the PTE 50 trim, you will need to block off the coolant lines as they do not take coolant lines. You will also need an oil line kit and possibly have to order a cast elbow to be welded on hte outlet pipe.

This is Carlos posting under James' name...

[howslowcanyougo]

Thanks much for all the great input gents.

I agree that the SBR Bastard 20G looks to be overpriced vs the EVO3.

I like the ease of install for the EVO3, but really would like a bit more power?

Also still kind of spooks me not have any water cooling, as I would like to keep this turbo going for a while?

A standard 20G uses water cooling, and should be good for about ~450 HP right or?

What are the details to swap in a 20G as far as the lines, and elbows?

TIA.......