View Full Version : Got An Idea, What Do You Guys Think?
LightningGSX
12-07-2003, 11:54 PM
I got an idea for a product and am wondering what you guys think before I blow a bunch of money on a patent.A timer that delays the ignition for a couple of seconds to allow the starter to crank and pump fresh oil to turbo,bearings,etc. before the engine fires.Maybe add a turbo timer and make it a plug in installation and some low battery protection.Good? bad? already been done?
Kracka
12-08-2003, 12:24 AM
That is a very good idea, I was thinking of that last year and wondered why nobody had done that yet.
niterydr
12-08-2003, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by LightningGSX@Dec 7 2003, 11:54 PM
I got an idea for a product and am wondering what you guys think before I blow a bunch of money on a patent.A timer that delays the ignition for a couple of seconds to allow the starter to crank and pump fresh oil to turbo,bearings,etc. before the engine fires.Maybe add a turbo timer and make it a plug in installation and some low battery protection.Good? bad? already been done?
It is an awesome product idea, we would carry it, and it should sell within the 3s market nicely :).
What would you use for delay/etc...?
never heard of it being done?
would this put extra wear on the starter? (excessive cranking)
great idea :banana:
Kracka
12-08-2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by niterydr@Dec 8 2003, 01:37 AM
What would you use for delay/etc...?
would this put extra wear on the starter? (excessive cranking)
1) 3 seconds should do it
2) of course, but whats worse...and oil starved cold started engine or going to the junkyard and dropping $10 for a new starter?
Kracka
12-08-2003, 12:40 AM
A lot of big diesel equipment actually use an electric pump to prime the oil system before starting.
niterydr
12-08-2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by TalonTSiDude+Dec 8 2003, 12:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TalonTSiDude @ Dec 8 2003, 12:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-niterydr@Dec 8 2003, 01:37 AM
What would you use for delay/etc...?
would this put extra wear on the starter? (excessive cranking)
1) 3 seconds should do it
2) of course, but whats worse...and oil starved cold started engine or going to the junkyard and dropping $10 for a new starter? [/b][/quote]
I know, just presenting questions he is going to be asked.
Actually i was looking into that 'electric oil pump' idea for my own use, but if someone makes something plug and play, i'll buy it cause im lazy/busy :).
Not a bad idea, but im thinking that the engine is cranking over without oil pressure anyway at first. Does it even matter whether or not combustion is taking place?
MustGoFaster
12-08-2003, 01:07 AM
Good idea, the McLaren F1 doesn't start till 4 complete revolutions or something like that. So like 2 seconds would be good in my opinon. But I'm a cheap person and would probably figure it out for my self rather than buy one.
niterydr
12-08-2003, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by CVD@Dec 8 2003, 12:54 AM
Not a bad idea, but im thinking that the engine is cranking over without oil pressure anyway at first. Does it even matter whether or not combustion is taking place?
that is true.
I think im back to the electric oil pump/prime idea that was being tossed around 3si.
LightningGSX
12-08-2003, 01:21 AM
I would think you would still build oil pressure,I already made a prototype, I'll have to test that tommorrow.Your starter only cranks the engine at a few hundred RPM as apposed to 800+ when it is running.
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