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LightningGSX
12-08-2003, 01:29 AM
Anybody know of a where I can get the plug in turbo timer harnesses quick locally?

niterydr
12-08-2003, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by LightningGSX@Dec 8 2003, 01:21 AM
I would think you would still build oil pressure,I already made a prototype, I'll have to test that tommorrow.Your starter only cranks the engine at a few hundred RPM as apposed to 800+ when it is running.
i love it, first you make a prototype then you ask.
maybe do some testing of it after it works, check with a real oil pressure gauge with and without use of 'primer' and maybe give an elapsed time. To bad you couldn't retap the gauge somewhere far away (head) from the oil pump, run a series to prove it helps..
Cvd's point is the engine still spins regardless.

Kracka
12-08-2003, 01:40 AM
Elite should have some harnesses in stock, if they don't I know Archer in Duluth does and if you order by 4pm you should see it the next business day.

LightningGSX
12-08-2003, 01:44 AM
I made the prototype after I posted the question.I was thinking of testing right at the turbo?or maybe on the head?

Goat Blower
12-08-2003, 01:59 AM
It'd be nice, but the bearings already have a oil film on them from the last time the car ran. If your oil isn't old and lost it's viscosity, it should cling to internal parts pretty nicely. That would explain why our motors consistently can go 200K miles without being rebuilt. Bearing materials, build quality and better oils have improved tremendously since the 60's, when 100K miles was considered a good time to rebuild if it made it that far.

I don't know how long it takes from the point the oil pump spins til the number four bearings see ~80 psi of oil pressure. Probably less than a second.

Raptor
12-08-2003, 10:22 AM
This is a concept that has been around for years and is done in a different way by many domestic cars already, as well as for some other reasons. Alot of the V8 cars running a ton of ignition advance run 2 switches, one for the starter and one for the ignition. They push a button to run the starter to get the engine rpms as high as the starter will take it, then flip a toggle for the ignition system so the engine will start easier. Priming the oil pump etc is just a side benefit for them. They had to do that type of thing because there were no coputers controling timing advance, but that has obiously changed now.

I do think this is a good idea for our cars as long as the timing was easily adjustable. I would definately tie one into my wireing system. Alamo motorsports has the best deals on TT harnesses that I have seen, and the shipping is pretty quick.

520Talon
12-08-2003, 03:51 PM
An accusump does what your talking about and also will keep oil pressure up durring high g corners and such where oil might slosh away from the pick up. Road racers use them all the time. Don't know about the 1/4 milers though.

Accusump (http://www.accusump.com/)

LightningGSX
12-08-2003, 05:42 PM
Those accumulators have been around for over a decade I wonder why you don't see or hear much about them.

rhino
12-08-2003, 07:38 PM
fuel will still be getting pumped in, so it might be a little smokey when you start up

A//// Guy
12-08-2003, 07:51 PM
Which will then gum up the engine..

CVD point about whether combustion and no combustion (crank while no igniton is on)makes a huge difference is what i think should be thought about. I dont know if its such a big deal how much longer will a turbo survive or an engine survive witht his mechanism applied.. maybe from new would be ok but high miles motor will not be worth it.