MustGoFaster
03-01-2005, 09:46 PM
It was 2.1Hp, sorry. And -10 lb/ft of TQ. And remember, I don't have a 16G yet.
Thanks for all the opinions. Any particular reason no one likes the FP (Comp) cams? I know Cher had an issue with his wearing, but I haven't heard of anyone else having issues. They seem pretty good, they are supposedly made on a CNC grinder like HKS’s are.
Also, I am not saying 272’s are overkill. What I am saying is that the 264’s may give me more USABLE power. But, maybe I should just go with something bigger.
Mo, what kind of gas mileage did you get back in the day? Yes, that is a consideration for me.
Josh, it was one line, get off JET’s case.
JET, it’s not my racecar, that’s $400 that could be spent on my racecar. The 16G is plenty for a DD. And I run 20PSI daily.
AMS CAM TEST
Test vehicle:
-1994 Eagle Talon - 5spd
-1991 Motor with roughly 40K miles, stock bottom and top end including head gasket
-Turbo: 16G with ported exhaust housing
-Exhaust Manifold: 2G ported
-Intake Manifold: Stock
-Throttle Body: Stock
-MAF: 1G slightly hacked (screw backed out) with K&N filter & stock turbo intake pipe
-Intercooler: Spearco 2-221 core with custom mandrel bent 2.25" diameter piping.
-Exhaust: HRC O2 eliminator downpipe and 3" exhaust with no cat-conv.
-Injectors & Fuel Control: Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump, 510cc/min injectors & S-AFC
-Boost controller: Ric Gillis Manual boost controller, check ball & spring type.
-Gas: 100 octane unleaded
-Ignition: Stock with NGK BPR7ES plugs, timing set to stock specifications
Cams Tested:
Stock Mitsubishi
Web Cams - Street Grind
HKS 264 intake 264 Exhaust
HKS 264 intake 272 Exhaust
HKS 272 intake 272 Exhaust
Crower - Stage 3 Grind
Jun Stage 3 Grind
Peak Horsepower and Torque Results:
Stock Mitsubishi Camshafts:
Peak HP: 309.5
Peak TRQ: 295.3
Spool up on street: quick, full boost by 3.2K RPM in 3rd gear with good power when off boost and as it's coming onto boost.
Web Cams - Street Grind:
Peak HP: 314.3
Peak TRQ: 295.3
Spool up on street: slower than stock, full boost by 3.4K RPM in 3rd gear with less power off boost than stock cams.
Crower - Stage 3 Grind
Peak HP: 322.6
Peak TRQ: 314.0
Spool up on street: much slower than stock (the worst of all the cams) with full boost hitting by 3.6-3.7K RPM and a definite loss in power off boost compared to stock cams.
Jun Stage 3 Grind
Peak HP: 323.7
Peak TRQ: 323.2
Spool up on street: Car was not driven on the street.
HKS 264 Intake 264 Exhaust
Peak HP: 323.1
Peak TRQ: 333.0
Spool up on street: As good as stock (3.2K RPM), with off boost power the same if not better than stock.
HKS 264 Intake 272 Exhaust
Peak HP: 324.2
Peak TRQ: 333.1
Spool up on street: Slightly slower than stock (3.3K RPM in 3rd gear) and a very slight loss in power in off boost conditions.
HKS 272 Intake 272 Exhaust
Peak HP: 325.2
Peak TRQ: 323.4
Spool up on street: Slower than stock, full boost by 3.4K RPM in 3rd gear with a slight loss in power in off boost conditions.
Thanks for all the opinions. Any particular reason no one likes the FP (Comp) cams? I know Cher had an issue with his wearing, but I haven't heard of anyone else having issues. They seem pretty good, they are supposedly made on a CNC grinder like HKS’s are.
Also, I am not saying 272’s are overkill. What I am saying is that the 264’s may give me more USABLE power. But, maybe I should just go with something bigger.
Mo, what kind of gas mileage did you get back in the day? Yes, that is a consideration for me.
Josh, it was one line, get off JET’s case.
JET, it’s not my racecar, that’s $400 that could be spent on my racecar. The 16G is plenty for a DD. And I run 20PSI daily.
AMS CAM TEST
Test vehicle:
-1994 Eagle Talon - 5spd
-1991 Motor with roughly 40K miles, stock bottom and top end including head gasket
-Turbo: 16G with ported exhaust housing
-Exhaust Manifold: 2G ported
-Intake Manifold: Stock
-Throttle Body: Stock
-MAF: 1G slightly hacked (screw backed out) with K&N filter & stock turbo intake pipe
-Intercooler: Spearco 2-221 core with custom mandrel bent 2.25" diameter piping.
-Exhaust: HRC O2 eliminator downpipe and 3" exhaust with no cat-conv.
-Injectors & Fuel Control: Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump, 510cc/min injectors & S-AFC
-Boost controller: Ric Gillis Manual boost controller, check ball & spring type.
-Gas: 100 octane unleaded
-Ignition: Stock with NGK BPR7ES plugs, timing set to stock specifications
Cams Tested:
Stock Mitsubishi
Web Cams - Street Grind
HKS 264 intake 264 Exhaust
HKS 264 intake 272 Exhaust
HKS 272 intake 272 Exhaust
Crower - Stage 3 Grind
Jun Stage 3 Grind
Peak Horsepower and Torque Results:
Stock Mitsubishi Camshafts:
Peak HP: 309.5
Peak TRQ: 295.3
Spool up on street: quick, full boost by 3.2K RPM in 3rd gear with good power when off boost and as it's coming onto boost.
Web Cams - Street Grind:
Peak HP: 314.3
Peak TRQ: 295.3
Spool up on street: slower than stock, full boost by 3.4K RPM in 3rd gear with less power off boost than stock cams.
Crower - Stage 3 Grind
Peak HP: 322.6
Peak TRQ: 314.0
Spool up on street: much slower than stock (the worst of all the cams) with full boost hitting by 3.6-3.7K RPM and a definite loss in power off boost compared to stock cams.
Jun Stage 3 Grind
Peak HP: 323.7
Peak TRQ: 323.2
Spool up on street: Car was not driven on the street.
HKS 264 Intake 264 Exhaust
Peak HP: 323.1
Peak TRQ: 333.0
Spool up on street: As good as stock (3.2K RPM), with off boost power the same if not better than stock.
HKS 264 Intake 272 Exhaust
Peak HP: 324.2
Peak TRQ: 333.1
Spool up on street: Slightly slower than stock (3.3K RPM in 3rd gear) and a very slight loss in power in off boost conditions.
HKS 272 Intake 272 Exhaust
Peak HP: 325.2
Peak TRQ: 323.4
Spool up on street: Slower than stock, full boost by 3.4K RPM in 3rd gear with a slight loss in power in off boost conditions.