92 Laser AWD Motor Problems

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Car is a 92 so no oil cooler.

It should have an oil cooler, just not one like the 1990s.

[Raptor]

It likely has the EGR and purge can removed. The FPR is probably direct to a manifold port. Nothing that would have anything to do with the problem. Unless I missed it, the question about it turning over hasn't been answered yet. That is the first step to knowing how big an issue you are looking at.

[TurboDomestics]

It likely has the EGR and purge can removed. The FPR is probably direct to a manifold port. Nothing that would have anything to do with the problem. Unless I missed it, the question about it turning over hasn't been answered yet. That is the first step to knowing how big an issue you are looking at.
thanks for the info!
When I pulled over on the highway I tried to start it back up but nothing happened, I could hear the starter motor trying, but the car would not turn over. I then popped the hood and noticed that there wasnt any oil in it and decided that it would not be a good idea to try to start it up again.

[unreal808]

O.K. so it will not turn over, and there is no oil on the dip stick, right? sounds like you have a junk Engine. Pull out and replace.

[Raptor]

Could be locked against a bent valve as well. It would still be worth checking into a little further. Take a 1/2 drive breaker bar and see if the engine will rotate backwards, just a little. That will tell you if it is just hitting a bent valve or not. If it doesn't, the above advice is accurate, swap or rebuild time.

[Raptor]

What the old dude (vicious) mentioned in the other thread is also a concern, even if it is a valve hitting that is keeping it from rotating, without oil, a spun bearing is also a good possiblity.

[slowbubblecar]

The things out aren't needed and are taken out. The solenoids aren't needed because the emissions are taken out and the fuse boxyou are talking about is the ac fuse box which isn't needed either since the ac is removed. BTW, the filter for the hose only causes resistence for the spilling on the ground anyways. There is no spot for it in the intake and all it does when it is connected is coat the ic and piping with oil making them less efficient. The hose is not needed to be put back in. None of our dsm's or our friends dsms have them connected. We all spit it onto the ground.

[A//// Guy]

Well I went and looked at the car. Im not going to list my opinions on the car here... but they would affect my decision on whose fault it is...

Basically I tried turning the crankshaft pulley with a 1/2" drive and the pulley rotated a 1/4 turn guess what didnt turn with it though... The camshafts and the timing belt on it.

So my guess is the t belt slipped, chewed up the bottom of the belt and now when you turn the key, the starter just spins, thus not starting.

I tried turning the engine back the other way until it stopped and the pulley nut loosened, which is Not good, and I was barely putting any pressure on it. So from those things I conclude the engine is probably toast, but I do not know becuase maybe the head survived, and maybe the pistons survived also.

He said that it just quit after a clunk, so that doesnt sound good but we wont find out till someone tears it apart.

Oh and he cant really shift into first or second gear because the shift linkages that bolt to the transmission were not even tight, and there was too much play in the cables to push the gear lever forward enough.

Im not blaming anyone at this moment, I dont know how it was put together or how he drove it so Ill just leave it at that :)

[TurboDomestics]

Well I went and looked at the car. Im not going to list my opinions on the car here... but they would affect my decision on whose fault it is...

Basically I tried turning the crankshaft pulley with a 1/2" drive and the pulley rotated a 1/4 turn guess what didnt turn with it though... The camshafts and the timing belt on it.

So my guess is the t belt slipped, chewed up the bottom of the belt and now when you turn the key, the starter just spins, thus not starting.

I tried turning the engine back the other way until it stopped and the pulley nut loosened, which is Not good, and I was barely putting any pressure on it. So from those things I conclude the engine is probably toast, but I do not know becuase maybe the head survived, and maybe the pistons survived also.

He said that it just quit after a clunk, so that doesnt sound good but we wont find out till someone tears it apart.

Oh and he cant really shift into first or second gear because the shift linkages that bolt to the transmission were not even tight, and there was too much play in the cables to push the gear lever forward enough.

Im not blaming anyone at this moment, I dont know how it was put together or how he drove it so Ill just leave it at that :)
Thanks again for coming and checking it out!

[john]

The starter is not driven off any belt. For the starter to not engage, the starter gear would have to strip or the flywheel gear would have to strip off. Neither are very likely. If the crank can turn a bit, maybe the block isn't toast. It only moving a minimal about could be due to some bent valves. If that is the case, it would lead me back to the "no oil." The block could have siezed up, the timing belt still had a rotating mass on it, and it could have stripped some teeth off the belt. That would be my guess. Sounds like the block didn't move at all though. It should move in atleast one direction if it is only bent vavles. If it was only bent valves, the starter would still turn the block smashing the valves even more (I have got 2 cars with bad valves and gotten them running). Sounds to me that the block is seised up (no oil), thus the starter cannot turn the siesed engine. If the engine seised while the car was moving, there is pretty much no hope. The weight and momentum of the car is much stronger than the starter. I am guessing the timing belt ripped teeth off the belt as the belt is moving fast and it stopped all of a sudden. Little rubber groves stand no chance. What does everyone else think? That is my diagnosis. Any idea where the oil leaked from? Ryan installed the belt perfectly for me. That is one thing I do not trust myself doing. Him and John L. have done it numerous times for me.