Evo 16G vs. V-Trim TO4B

[1ViciousGSX]

There aren't many turbos that really use the 7cm Mitsu exhaust housing anymore though. The Franks, Mutts and Green did, once PTE and others started making their own bolt-on Mitsu casting they switched to them since they are much much cheaper than trying to find 7cm exhaust housings to use. Some of the places were eventually forced to buy new 16Gs just you get the 7cm exhaust housings off of them for use on hybrid turbos. That is why you used to see so many brand new 16Gs for sale without the exhaust housing for sale for cheap from places like FP. Turbos like the Green and XCs(ETE/Mutts) are still expensive compared to what is out there nowdays with custom cast Mitsu housings.Yeah, that's what I meant, Mitsu style housings, my bad. :D

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Just get 1ViciousGSX to sell you his turbo for cheap. It would be like having a dual ball bearing 50-trim.

[Enes]

hmm.. temptation

[1ViciousGSX]

Just get 1ViciousGSX to sell you his turbo for cheap. It would be like having a dual ball bearing 50-trim.Cheap!?!?!?!?! What's that? :p

[Alpine TSi]

With the motor I am building I should be able to be just shy if not right at 400 with race gas on my EVO3. But I am building it for 400 on pump gas(hence the reason I will be spraying). It is entirely possible to get 400 on race as I was at 320 with a very weak motor and about 24 psi. If you want to be for sure I would recommend either an FP green which will do it all day long and give you great pump gas numbers.

I am kind of in the same boat as you are for final goal with our setups. I was looking at this one, http://www.agpturbo.com/customer/product.php?productid=30&cat=72&page=1 but have since decided to keep my EVO3 until it dies, I may go with that one or the slightly bigger 49 when I do need to upgrade.

[Jakey]

350-400whp on pump gas or race gas? You should be able to hit that range on race gas with an EVO 16G, if the rest of your setup is good.

A 50-trim/7-cm/t04b is very close to an FP Green. Swap the t04b comp housing for a 20G comp housing and you pretty much have a Green.

Race gas. I simply do not have the interest in shooting for something higher right now as I want a good point to build off of since this car is my first DSM. I also have no interest in running anything but the 2G manifold I have sitting in my garage as it is in perfect condition so I want to get my use out of it. I'm going to have JET port the manifold for me and I want to research JetHot coating it also. I also have no interest in running nitrous. The Green is way out of my price range at $1299. I wouldn't have a problem running an externally gated turbo but I definitely need to read more about wastegates before I look at what I want to purchase.

[1ViciousGSX]

Hey Jakey, have I got a deal for you!!!.

Since I decided I'm going to go full Garrett, I have a very nice bolt-on set-up for you that is ready to go.

VPE GT3056 BB (polished TO4E/.56 trim/GT30/PTE style Mitsu housing)
VPE 2.5 inch stainless O2 housing (external back to internal, set-up for Tial 40mm)
DN Performance tubular manifold
FIC 780 cc injectors

Let's talk. :D

[1QUICK4]

16G's are fun but pretty soon after you run her you'll wish you had just went ahead and gone with the 50 trim.

[Jakey]

Hey Jakey, have I got a deal for you!!!.

Since I decided I'm going to go full Garrett, I have a very nice bolt-on set-up for you that is ready to go.

VPE GT3056 BB (polished TO4E/.56 trim/GT30/PTE style Mitsu housing)
VPE 2.5 inch stainless O2 housing (external back to internal, set-up for Tial 40mm)
DN Performance tubular manifold
FIC 780 cc injectors

Let's talk. :D

Unless you'd cut me one hell of a deal: too big, would be nice, nope, maybe.

[1ViciousGSX]

Unless you'd cut me one hell of a deal: too big, would be nice, nope, maybe.20+ psi by 3400 rpm, 25+ psi by 3400-3600 rpm on my 2g 2.0L. :D