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Jakey
11-11-2004, 10:19 AM
Sometimes I see people bitching about the most irrelevant and stupid shit in their lives so when I see something like this I'd hope everyone can take a minute to read it: http://www.agriculture.com/default.sph/AgNews.class?FNC=MonsentoDetail__ANewsindex_html__ _52851

How would you like to be someone who's occupation is farming and watch soybean rust potentially approach your farm knowing you have no definite treatment available to save your crop?

Matt D.
11-11-2004, 11:19 AM
That's gotta be an impossible thing to stop... It's not a pest or anything like that, it's a disease that is transmitted through the air and carried by the wind. Let's hope that it's a localized issue and doesn't spread further than the southeast US.

Jakey
11-12-2004, 01:48 AM
Wow, only one response, always interesting...

I hope you're right about being contained to being a localized issue Matt.

CVD
11-12-2004, 02:01 AM
"While Rick Dunkle, APHIS Deputy Administrator of Plant Protection and Quarantine, called the finding "concerning" he noted the timing is such that it is likely to have a minimal impact. Most commercial soybeans in the area have been harvested already."

"Costs for treatment in the US are estimated at $25/acre on average. That would represent a 15% increase in costs for those producers who are affected."

"So far three active ingredients have been approved for Section 18 emergency exemptions for use in treating Asian Soybean Rust: propiconazole (Tilt, Propimax, Bumper), myclobutanil (Laredo), and tebuconazole (Folicur)."



...not to be an ass, but I dont see the catastrophe.

Kracka
11-12-2004, 02:52 AM
Farmer's just like bitching about how tough life is. If you can't handle it sell your land to the large corporations. Other thing is, there are a lot of farmers out there making a ton of money and we of course never hear them bitching about things, and the last thing they'll do is go public with their large profits since then they will lose the sympathy of the average American idiot and actually have to price their items fairly.

santa
11-12-2004, 03:25 AM
yeah that would suck. I wonder if that could spread to other kinda of crop's or what not? well have to wait and see.

Jakey
11-12-2004, 08:25 AM
Farmer's just like bitching about how tough life is. If you can't handle it sell your land to the large corporations. Other thing is, there are a lot of farmers out there making a ton of money and we of course never hear them bitching about things, and the last thing they'll do is go public with their large profits since then they will lose the sympathy of the average American idiot and actually have to price their items fairly.

The thing about something like Soybean rust is that in time, it will change everyone's production methods. It doesn't matter if you're are a 350 acre farmer in NE Iowa or a 12,000 acre farmer in Kentucky or a 45,000 acre farmer in South Dakota. Selling out to large corporations as a whole will not get anywhere. Granted one can argue that by selling out to large corporations, the large size of the corporations will allow them to pursue the most high-tech treatment methods but in the end, it still effects everyone. Soybean rust is on a whole different playing field compared to the high milk price discussion we had a while back.

Jakey
11-12-2004, 08:28 AM
"While Rick Dunkle, APHIS Deputy Administrator of Plant Protection and Quarantine, called the finding "concerning" he noted the timing is such that it is likely to have a minimal impact. Most commercial soybeans in the area have been harvested already."

"Costs for treatment in the US are estimated at $25/acre on average. That would represent a 15% increase in costs for those producers who are affected."

"So far three active ingredients have been approved for Section 18 emergency exemptions for use in treating Asian Soybean Rust: propiconazole (Tilt, Propimax, Bumper), myclobutanil (Laredo), and tebuconazole (Folicur)."



...not to be an ass, but I dont see the catastrophe.

As of now I agree, there will not be anything happening yet this year. The soybean crop this year is fine but what about next year? What if it hasn't spread much by next spring but by next summer it may affect those producers who double crop beans and don't get their fields planted till late June/early July. The treatments above, from everything I have seen, do not guarantee 100% success. They only 'treat' the problem.

Halon
11-12-2004, 10:16 AM
I'm sorry, but is it wrong that I find this thread rather amusing? Sitting here debating on how bad shit is about to get because of dieing Soy? I would agree that I don't see how this is some sort of catastrophe or emergency.

ABV
11-12-2004, 10:23 AM
I'm sorry, but is it wrong that I find this thread rather amusing? Sitting here debating on how bad shit is about to get because of dieing Soy? I would agree that I don't see how this is some sort of catastrophe or emergency.
It's all relative. How many people on here thought the world was coming to an end when Mitubishi had all of it's recall problems, and Daimler backed out of the deal. Ok, now imagine that same feeling, but instead, you don't give two licks about some foreign car company, but your soy bean crops could be in danger. Like I said, it's all relative.