Continuing Oil Squirter Problem

[joem]

http://www.dsmstyle.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5236
Why did this happen? My old motor did the same thing remember Mike
the first block that was in my talon.
Plus will it brake the new one he puts in.
joe

[Raptor]

Not sure why this one broke. He mentioned the old squirter was very loose, it may have worked it's way over and been knocked off somehow. It didn't show obvious signs of impact from what I saw, but that would be my guess. Beyond that, maybe someone else has other theories they would contribute.

Joe, your definately was knocked off, it had more obvious damage. These things are only torqued at 25 ft/lbs so it wouldn't take that much to have one end up working it's way loose. I use a very small amount (so it can't end up in the valve) of thread lock on them to help prevent that from happening as well as new crush washers. Never had one come loose on any I have built.

[scheides]

Quick update: put in a new squirter, washers, and a drop of threadlock like mike said, and it seems to run fine, for now. No road time yet, but I think this'll do the trick, at least for a while.

-scheides

ps--special thanks to QPR for the great info & support!

[Raptor]

Your welcome Chris, glad it worked out ;)

[Pimpin Dsmstyle]

damn mike, how many more lives can you save in 24 hours?? lol

[scheides]

Well, got everything back together today, took it for a spin, seems to behave just as though nothing happened. Idles normally, revs fine, boosts fine, makes plenty of power.

In short...YEA! I'll post to this thread if anything comes up. This'll hopefully get me in gear to build a motor...anyone have a 4gcs block lying around?

Thanks again to QPR, who helped me narrowly avoid spending thousands of dollars with them...wait, what kind of company is this, anyways?

-scheides
'94 TSi AWD

[Raptor]

One of two things Chris, either we are extremely ethical or not all that bright, could be both. :bounce:

[Enes]

i say its more like AND.. ;)

-e

[acidrumz]

hey, i think i may know why your oil squirtor or anyone's oil squitor (is that miss-spelled?) breaks or keeps on breaking on replacements.

well the last time i overhauled two 4g63s motor, i found both of the motors had that problem. but upon careful checking and measurements, i laid a straight metal ruler across all the pistons top on the block. to a surprise i found that one of the pistons, (piston 1 and 4 or 2 and 3) when cranked, one of the piston did not lined up tdc to the top of the block. and from the broken squirtor, that piston was low. i believe it was shorter like 1/8th of a inch. maybe even less like 1/16th of a inch. can't remember which. but it is slightly small, but the nake eye can notice it.

that is serious problem. the lead cause i think would be in the connecting rod bearings and even the mains. and worst the crank journals.

that was found on both motors. i didn't finish rebuilting the motor because the owner decided to get another used motor.

but thats my input on that. hopes that helps.
good luck.

[LightningGSX]

So you're saying the piston was physically contacting the squirter?