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tpunx99GSX
11-18-2003, 04:31 PM
STi's dont come with a radio????? hmmm thats a little odd

JDM
11-18-2003, 05:18 PM
Yeah the STi has no radio, and the interior is cheap, so for daily driving purposes, I'd proly get the evo... The STi does come stock with 30 more ponies... I KNOW I KNOW... they only win by a 10th... but that's proly all driver... I also hate mitsu service... Every dealer knows me for some reason (hmmm...) I love the looks of both cars, but I don't know much about an in line 4, much less a flat 4.... and Kapers, shut up... You'd rather drive a Nissan Sentra anyway...

I'd be interested in hearing more about that bad pressure plate in the STi, and clutch problems with the EVO. I know Ryan has to get a clutch line or something... And there is a recall on the tranny... WHo knows....

And does the RS come with AYC??? 6th Gear??

:stick:

A//// Guy
11-18-2003, 06:09 PM
Buying a car that has never been driven isnt my excuse for getting a new car... IMHO I would never buy a new car (unless i was loaded and still maybe not then) because you loose so much money even in the first few months.... Just seems like a big waste to me. I would rather get a 1 or 2 year old car for half the cost from a reliable owner and buy other stuff for it.

Alot of the tests out there comparing the STi to the EVO ranked the Evo as faster in 1/4 and road coarse.... I would take an evo over a STi just becuase I know its history.

But its all up to you... your decision. For 30k you could have 2 nice cars, a daily driver and a racer.

520Talon
11-18-2003, 11:03 PM
I was running for parts today and went to both dealerships. I was at the subi dealership in Brooklyn Park tonight and took a good look at the STi. I even got in one that was running and ready to go for a test drive when a couple of managers came running out and stopped us. They lady showing it to us was new and didn't know you couldn't test drive one. Next time I won't adjust the seat. I think the STi has a nicer interior. The adjustable diff is cool too. I next when to Mitsu where they still wouldn't hand over the keys, odd last time they offered.

I hate to say it but I would have a hard time not getting the STi over the EVO. The only thing about the subi is I've been under the hood and they are a little tougher to work on, but not that bad.

JDM
11-18-2003, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by EclipseTurbo@Nov 18 2003, 06:09 PM
For 30k you could have 2 nice cars, a daily driver and a racer.
I am using my car, and $10k as a down payment... I will be financing through Mitsu... I could not get a personal loan or auto loan through any bank, because I have a few school loans through major bank lenders. I do however have good lending history with Mitsu Motors and GMAC... It's the situation handed to me... :razz2:

JDM
11-18-2003, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by 520Talon@Nov 18 2003, 11:03 PM
The adjustable diff is cool too. I next when to Mitsu where they still wouldn't hand over the keys, odd last time they offered.
What adjustable diff?? Could someone elaborate??

And Forest Lake Mitsu let me test a black Evo... White Bear subi just kinda gave me a funny look when I asked... Ass. :razz2:

ABV
11-19-2003, 05:45 PM
Yeah the STi has a driver controled center differential. It has an automatic mode, where tons of sensors determine where the power should go. It's similar to the Active Yaw Control on the Evo. But the AYC isn't offered on the U.S. Evo. The Subaru DCCD also has a manual mode where you can control the front/rear torque split from 50/50 to 35/65 (rear bias).

Also, here's some food for thought. The Evo runs 19 psi with 8.8:1 compression, while the STi runs 14.5 psi with 8.2:1 compression. I don't know if anyone has tried it yet, but it looks like with the STi, you're just a boost controller away from insane power from a basically stock car.

The Subaru also has more power down low, and with the 2.5 liter motor, there's a lot less turbo lag.

Shane@DBPerformance
11-19-2003, 06:35 PM
Unless the motor just blows up because its a Subaru motor. Or maybe the turbo is too small to keep up. Or maybe it has an ECU like the normal WRXs that ignores the knock sensor at high rpms and the motor blows instead of pulling timing.

rhino
11-19-2003, 08:14 PM
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or if the rod in the evo decides to let go at 90mph and flies through the hood with a big flame and all. (dennis martin, headwaters 03, evo 4)

-do the evo's use the same rods as the dsm's? never seen one, just know that when i rebuilt my 90 talon the rods were pretty flimsy looking- about half the size as the rods in my mr2 were.

-i'm not really a subaru fan, in fact i would get the evo.

Shane@DBPerformance
11-19-2003, 11:01 PM
The EVO 8s uses rods that look just like the ones in 92.5+ DSMs. AMS is making 525whp on their stock bottom end EVO 8. The 90-92.5 DSMs had bigger/stronger rods, they look beefy compared to most rods and are known to handle over 500whp. Bad tuning can bend a rod at 200whp though...