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Enes
10-08-2004, 04:49 PM
Yes, for example, they will hire a outsorcing company here, who will in turn get contractors from indian company, what does that mean..

US does not get a peny in earned wages get taxed, nothing for SSI or anything that stays in US market, people loose jobs, spend less, smaller companies don't sell enough, close, more people out of work. middle class just moved to poor class..


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tpunx99GSX
10-08-2004, 09:05 PM
I tried and tried to stay away from this but im gonna have to go and shoot my mouth off sorry.

There have been a lot of valid points made by both partys. and if you guys wanna hear it then i will say it, "John Kerry will be a GREAT President." When you see the debates and such you realise that this man sees what is going on and will try to change that wrongdoings bush has led us into. Its not surprising that what we know now is that we were lied to time and time again that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and that there were no nukes in there. so why then were we led to believe they were. Because there was an alterior motive for going into iraq. wether we find out now or find out later either way it is done and theres nothing that is going to change what happened.
Saddam was a very very bad person i do know this but 9/11 had nothing to do with him and we had no proof that he did have something to do with it.
ok with that said, on to overseas jobs and the middle class.
Moving jobs overseas is the worst fucking idea since the mexicans wanting reperations for deporting illegal ones. The middle class has been greatly affected by overseas jobs. "the rich get richer the poor get poorer" there is no room in america for middle class as far as big business and government is concerned, heres my explaination to what i just stated, The way big business looks at middle america is that we dont have enough money to buy the pricey items so they figure they can make more if manufactureing costs are lower. Now if we are trying to bring the global economy up as CVD so arrogantly put it by sending jobs over there, isnt that just like the governtment giving other countries money just to help them out, but in the same time fucking the working man. YES. Fuck other countries that dont give a shit about us. Honestly Economy is fiction. Its fiction in the sence that no matter what there is going to be a lower and a upper class, the middle is bullshit. and if we try to make everyone rich then the so called economy will crash and chaos will ensue. because the doller will not mean anything. so i say fuck these big businesses laying off honest workers to give jobs to other countries that will do it for pennies on the dollar. And Fuck those people in those countries for doing this shit for so cheap.

slowbubblecar
10-08-2004, 09:28 PM
I actually agree with tom for once. I never thought that could happen...

Jakey
10-08-2004, 10:57 PM
Well tonight Bush followed the lead of Cheney the other night in handing Kerry his ass back to him on the end of a corn cob :thumbsup:

slowbubblecar
10-09-2004, 10:11 AM
Bush did better than last time, but he didn't beat kerry by any means. CNN even considers it a tie. Bush didn't really even talk about any changes he would make if he was elected again. I don't know how all republicans always think your canidate did any better. Maybe you should take off your republican glasses for the next debate. I don't know how bush could have won since he didn't really even talk about any new plans for if he was elected.

CVD
10-09-2004, 01:46 PM
1. CNN is a liberal news channel

2. Why would Bush talk about changes when hes going to be pursuing his current policies???

And Tom, our government isnt GIVING away anything. It's ALLOWING companies to outsource. Giving them the freedom to choose. That is what I'm arguing for!!! You cant make shit illegal (or even taxed to the point where it's not economically viable) because you dont like it, or because it may cost people jobs.

The rights of the people come first and foremost! Who is the gov't to tell me that I CANT hire people from another country if it will help my company?

john
10-09-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by CVD@Oct 9 2004, 12:46 PM
1. CNN is a liberal news channel


Can you give me a conservative news channel? I want to see what all you are creaming your pants when ever Bush "tries" to talk. I have not seen anything on TV that gives me a reason to support Bush. Unlike all of you, I am open to information I do not want to hear.

Time to take off the party glasses and look at everything as a whole. Seems to me that most of you on here are very closed minded about everything. I am not going to point out any names on here but several people talk out of their asses. You can probly tell by who always has an edit after their posts.

LightningGSX
10-09-2004, 06:24 PM
Me? I always find spelling mistakes, that why my posts are always edited.

LightningGSX
10-09-2004, 06:26 PM
Fox is a conservative news channel.

tpunx99GSX
10-09-2004, 08:54 PM
"That is what I'm arguing for!!! You cant make shit illegal (or even taxed to the point where it's not economically viable) because you dont like it, or because it may cost people jobs."
When did i say to make it illegal??? i think we should stop giving tax breaks for companies that are stealing jobs away from americans.