Project Black ValentNine AKA DSM9.0

[evotuner]

400whp is reliable(ish) on a stock block but 400tq isnt.

...which it does depend on when that 400tq hits, sub 3800rpms its not as reliable as 4000+rpms

[bramagedained]

I ran around at 514whp/456wtq for a year and a half(~23k miles) with the stock motor/FP Red and it didn't explode.

That was even on my 'I read about it on the internet' tune.

With Diiirk's tune from AWD Motorsports it was 439/440 on the stock turbo with boltons and E85-on their dynojet at sea level.

I admit, I kind of secretly wish I would have just thrown some drop in pistons/rods in the block and left the car alone.

[turbotalon1g]

400whp is reliable(ish) on a stock block but 400tq isnt.

...which it does depend on when that 400tq hits, sub 3800rpms its not as reliable as 4000+rpms

Says who?
Don't believe everything you read on the internet, plus nothing a set of rod bolts won't fix.

[Murlo26]

Says who?
Don't believe everything you read on the internet, plus nothing a set of rod bolts won't fix.

I didn't know rodbolts stop stock rods from bending/breaking :)

[scheides]

Why are we discussing how much the stock rods can or cannot take when I already said I'm putting aftermarket rods in this motor?!? You guys just want to kick dead horses eh? :P

The last thing I'll say is the whole '400wtq' thing is semi true, but as always when quoting dyno numbers, it depends on the dyno :) I ran '400wtq' or '450wtq' on my evo8 w/ stock bottom-end for...whatever I said above, 25k miles or so, and '370wtq' or '400wtq' for like 20k miles before that....that is about the limit though, I was happy and things looked just peachy when I pulled it apart...even after rolling through the ditch ;)

[turbotalon1g]

I didn't know rodbolts stop stock rods from bending/breaking :)

There is a lot you don't know, hence why you keep chasing some power level you can't handle and why your car consistently doesn't run.

Since you don't believe me ask ron, english racing or any of the other people that actually push stock motors rather than chasing the newest parts on the market.

[Murlo26]

There is a lot you don't know, hence why you keep chasing some power level you can't handle and why your car consistently doesn't run.

Since you don't believe me ask ron, english racing or any of the other people that actually push stock motors rather than chasing the newest parts on the market.

Correct, as always, I shall bow down to you!

I am sorry I ever questioned your ultimate knowledge.

[turbotalon1g]

Murlo you never fail to provide entertainment.

Back on OT, scheides are you still shopping for a stock motor or just whatever is around for the right price?

[TkrPerformance]

On page 2. Funny how far it goes off topic On a stock rods when it was all posted it is being built right now at RS. Just need to take the time to read first.

Original block will be line-bored and fully machined
I found an OEM 88mm crank locally
Molner H-beam rods (good stuff--google them!)
Wiseco HD pistons 9:1
Stock IX head w/ stock valves (cleaned, machined as necessary)
GSC 5039 valvesprings
Stock IX cams
Stock IX turbo

[turbotalon1g]

oh nice.
That is gonna be sweet, this mean the beater X can go T3 or T4!!