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Yiddie
11-21-2012, 01:43 PM
There is a big advantage to doing that though.

What do you mean exactly?

Super Bleeder!!
11-21-2012, 01:46 PM
What do you mean exactly?

He means if you build a drivetrain that can support 600hp and then only run 500hp through it you'll likely end up with a reliable machine.

Yiddie
11-21-2012, 01:48 PM
600hp on what dyno? Kerry made over 600hp dyno-jet on an FP manifold and a regular old SCM61, think it was internally gated too.

Something else about tubulars. They look cool and all, but it also comes with some unwanted complexity. Rather than 4 bolts on top of the manifold, easy to get to, to attach/remove the turbo, you now get to deal with 4 bolts underneath, that are a pain to get to. They might come loose so you have to go under there with an allen or whatever to tighten. installing the nuts to attach the mani to the head, depending on the manifold that can be a PITA. You will likely have no heat shield.

At least in my experience, the more I mod and put in aftermarket stuff, the more I appreciate OEM quality and designs. And the more I appreciate keeping things simple. Not always the case obviously, but often the case in my experience so far.

Just my point of view I guess, everyone will have their own. Good luck to you whatever path you choose.

It's getting tuned at DB.

I guess I'm just trying to get the most out of what I got, If you all say that manifold is the best way to go I'll take your word for it, But what's the best setup for that then? 5858BB? Do I get an external wastegate?

My shortblock is rated 700+

Yiddie
11-21-2012, 01:50 PM
He means if you build a drivetrain that can support 600hp and then only run 500hp through it you'll likely end up with a reliable machine.

Well I figured that lol I just thought there was more to it than that haha

Halon
11-21-2012, 02:09 PM
600awhp at DB is serious power, close to 700hp at MAP (dynojet).

I don't know a ton about the PTE billet stuff. But if they make a bolt-on housing for the billet 58mm, I personally think that would be a killer street setup. Alternative options might be the BW S200 series. I believe they make an S256 and an S258/59 that are available in bolt on housings as well.

turbotalon1g
11-21-2012, 02:21 PM
I have a T3 manifold for sale for $150 if you are interested.

Yiddie
11-21-2012, 02:25 PM
600awhp at DB is serious power, close to 700hp at MAP (dynojet).

I don't know a ton about the PTE billet stuff. But if they make a bolt-on housing for the billet 58mm, I personally think that would be a killer street setup. Alternative options might be the BW S200 series. I believe they make an S256 and an S258/59 that are available in bolt on housings as well.

I'll take a look at those ones too, But this is the options it gives me for the 5858 which only has a hp rating of 620 at the engine

Mitsubishi:
.48 ar external (manifold mounted)
.63 ar external (manifold mounted)
.48 ar external (o2 mounted)
.63 ar external (o2 mounted)
.48 ar Divided with standard wastegate
.63 ar Divided with standard wastegate
.48 ar Undivided with standard wastegate
.63 ar Undivided with standard wastegate

Yiddie
11-21-2012, 03:22 PM
fp mani, maybe a 5858dbb turbo with a wet kit? direct port nitrous? lol

Halon
11-21-2012, 03:25 PM
I don't know your background, but 58mm at 30psi, no nitrous, will probably have you gitty as a school girl.

turbotalon1g
11-21-2012, 03:28 PM
fp mani, maybe a 5858dbb turbo with a wet kit? direct port nitrous? lol

This.

You will be fast enough to beat most off the bottle and if you run into something that somehow goes around you, then flip the switches.

I know a guy selling a kit for cheap too.... :guns: