Corporate America stepping up!

[JET]

Wow, this is great to see and I am a bit shocked! 80 CEO's are getting together to try and force congress to pull their heads out of the their ass and get the deficit fixed. It is currently going up 1 TRILLION dollars each year! That is just nuts.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/ceos-launch-campaign-congress-finally-fix-deficit-145817079.html

[tpunx99GSX]

I Totally agree with this.
The problem though, is that congress really is the one that needs to give up on their no taxes pledge. If you remember obama gave in a lot, and really did try to negotiate with the tax terrorists and came to the 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 spending cuts vs revenue increase.
Both sides need to come to the table, give up on their basic principals of just spending vs just revenue, and realize that you need both, no just one or the other.

[1ViciousGSX]

Tom, you want more tax revenue, you raise the number of people working, that's how you raise federal tax revenues, there really is no other answer that makes sense.

You do realize Obama is one of the worst "spenders" we've ever had. You'll never get the deficit down without cutting serious amounts of spending.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/377447_294854217288035_1240074444_n.jpg

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/over-60000-welfare-spentper-household-poverty_657889.html

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/19/must-read-research-obama-gutting-welfare-reform-setting-spending-records/

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[JET]

Coincidence that this is about exactly how much the national debt is going up by each year? Pretty crazy numbers, thanks Vicious!

[1ViciousGSX]

Glad to help.

[A//// Guy]

Numbers on graphs seem to show anything these days. Im not a fan of Obama but Bush spent more during his presidency than obama has?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/

[tpunx99GSX]

Not to mencion that Bush kept the war spending off the books and out of the public eye. One of the first things obama did was put them on the books so that you could see how much we were spending on our military conquests. Then also that graph doesnt show the interest that is on our debt, we can thank reagan and bush sr for that, as well as clinton.
Fact is, during the whole debate over the budget in the mid term elections, obama offered up a compromise, $3 in cuts for every $1 in revenue increase, the republicans shot it down, then he even went to $10 in cuts for every $1 increase, and they still shot it down. They cant use the whole Obama didnt put forth a budget, when he has and they were purposely blocking everything to keep Obama from gaining a second term. Yet, everyone seems to ignore a little thing we call history and blame obama for everything. Sorry but last i checked we didnt live in a dictatorship, congress, senate, and supreme court all play a part in this as well.

[tpunx99GSX]

Also the whole "Put people to work to raise revenue", how do you expect one man, obama, to do that? The so called "Job Creators" are the ones that do that. Our economy is coming back, but its coming back at a consistent pace, I really hate hearing all of this talk about "The economy should be back and net positive right now" Im sorry but i would take a slow and steady pace over a bubble pace any day of the week, you republicans were unrealistic in setting the expectation that obama would come in office, and if he didnt turn the economy around to a 0% unemployment in 2 years, it would be a failure. Im sorry but that is just stupid. We are on the right track, we were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs every day when he took office, then it hit rock bottom around 6 months of him being in office, and have gained every month since.

[1ViciousGSX]

Maybe Obama should have used all his political clout on the budget and spending reform his first year of office, instead of wasting it on healthcare that the MAJORITY of the USoA didn't want. And still don't want.

[JET]

everyone seems to ignore a little thing we call history and blame obama for everything.

Yet you seem to forget about history and blame it all on Bush... I blame it on the whole freaking government for the last 20 years. Shit just keeps getting worse and worse. Any president could get this changed if he wanted to. Start calling press conferences and call out the people holding this up publically. You don't think that would get some things done? Nobody has had the balls to do that yet because they don't want to burn bridges because they might need a favor later on.

I hate where our government is headed, but I also don't see a way out. We need some uber rich guy in that doesn't give a crap about the money, like Bill Gates or somebody.