View Full Version : Corporate America stepping up!
Super Bleeder!!
10-29-2012, 11:45 AM
Yet you seem to forget about history and blame it all on Bush... I blame it on the whole freaking government for the last 20 years. Shit just keeps getting worse and worse. Any president could get this changed if he wanted to. Start calling press conferences and call out the people holding this up publically.
Obama did exactly that a few months ago, during a televised speech. I'm not sure which one it was, but he called out congress for blocking his attempts to compromise with them time and time again.
1ViciousGSX
10-29-2012, 11:51 AM
How about this little Jen?
Fiat (who now owns majority shares of Chrysler) is planning on moving some, if not all Jeep production to China. That's right, the American auto company that American taxpayers gave money to, and was eventually given to Fiat without a dollar changing hands. Just in case you missed the reason why no money was exchanged for majority of Chrysler ownership was, and I quote; "Fiat obtained ownership rights for Chrysler by trading SMALL CAR TECHNOLOGY to Chrysler." That is correct, the company that is tied to Mitsubishi needed Fiat to give them small technology to keep afloat.
http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/10/27/media-unfairly-blasts-romney-chrysler-jeep-china-outsourcing-comments
A//// Guy
10-29-2012, 11:58 AM
Haha I figured my post would get ignored...
tpunx99GSX
10-29-2012, 12:05 PM
How about this little Jen?
Fiat (who now owns majority shares of Chrysler) is planning on moving some, if not all Jeep production to China. That's right, the American auto company that American taxpayers gave money to, and was eventually given to Fiat without a dollar changing hands. Just in case you missed the reason why no money was exchanged for majority of Chrysler ownership was, and I quote; "Fiat obtained ownership rights for Chrysler by trading SMALL CAR TECHNOLOGY to Chrysler." That is correct, the company that is tied to Mitsubishi needed Fiat to give them small technology to keep afloat.
http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/10/27/media-unfairly-blasts-romney-chrysler-jeep-china-outsourcing-comments
First, its GEM not Jen. We arent talking about a girl.
So the party that was totally against bailing out the auto industry with government money because it was considered socialism and didnt want the government telling what Chrysler what to do, is now saying that it should interfere with what Chrysler should do with its manufacturing? hmm. good point vicious. ::rollseyes::
Seriously the hipocracy has to end. While i dont agree with this decision, in what the GOP calls Free Enterprise, this is an unfortunate, but necessary evil of that. And you know what, Chrysler will pay for it. If they ship the manufacturing overseas, and people catch wind of it, people will just need to boycott their cars. simple as that. We vote every day with our wallets, in the items we purchase, We choose "Made in the USA", or "Made in China", we choose "Organic" vs "GMO" we make these choices and decide what works for our society. If Chrysler makes the decision to move their production overseas and people decide to go Ford, or Chevy instead and Chrysler loses sales, well maybe they will bring it back. Many companies have done just that, as people take notice and decide to go elsewhere for products and services that are local.
The auto Bailout was a good thing, it saved a ton of jobs, but the government had to cut the umbilical cord and let the companies make their own decisions again.
tpunx99GSX
10-29-2012, 12:08 PM
Obama did exactly that a few months ago, during a televised speech. I'm not sure which one it was, but he called out congress for blocking his attempts to compromise with them time and time again.
It was actually a couple years ago, they had a "Call Em Out" Campaign.
1ViciousGSX
10-29-2012, 12:14 PM
Under Obama spending on social programs had gone through the roof. And since he stripped out the work requirement in the Welfare program just prior to this election, it will only get worse. The main way the federal government gets its revenue is through income taxes. So why is Obama not creating jobs and wealth in this country that make a real difference?
In all reality it could be argued using the word "spender", but maybe the correct term would be "deficit grower".
Super Bleeder!!
10-29-2012, 12:21 PM
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1ViciousGSX
10-29-2012, 12:25 PM
Leave it to Tom to take what I said and twist it around.
Show me were I said the government should tell Chrysler what to do. I'm only pointing out how the American taxpayer got fucked again.
GEM-JEN, auto correct is a bitch sometimes.
Chrysler and GM both should have went through structured bankruptcies without government intervention, you would have had the same results without dumping all that money down the drain. But you see Tom, that would have the unions without power, and can't have that now can we?
Super Bleeder!!
10-29-2012, 12:25 PM
Numbers on graphs seem to show anything these days. Im not a fan of Obama but Bush spent more during his presidency than obama has?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/
HEY! I didnt see a foxnews anywhere in that link title so i refuse to read it!
Now if you'll excuse me i need to find some tinfoil for my sweet hat.
A//// Guy
10-29-2012, 12:31 PM
Under Obama spending on social programs had gone through the roof. And since he stripped out the work requirement in the Welfare program just prior to this election, it will only get worse. The main way the federal government gets its revenue is through income taxes. So why is Obama not creating jobs and wealth in this country that make a real difference?
In all reality it could be argued using the word "spender", but maybe the correct term would be "deficit grower".
What is your point? If romney gets elected I fear for more military spending than we are having right now, either way we are screwed when it comes to the deficit! At least the social spending is in the USA, but I dont agree with a lot of those programs though.. haha A major overhaul on spending vs what we "need" is in order. Romney or Obama sadly wont get us where we need to go.
Bush spent more than Obama and it was mostly because of war, Obama added too it, but slower than previous presidents.
Breaking it down into graphs and not looking at the big picture is not really accurate.
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